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ThatFragranceGuy said:
Again, crap advice, you will get corrected reads as they still do manual reads and any reading that is out of kilter with your expected readings would trigger an investigation

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Martin Lewis warns households not to give false meter readings

From next month energy prices are set to soar
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I haven't had a manual meter reading by any energy company for a decade I think and probably a lot longer than that.

I don't have a Smart meter. Anyone who needs one to manage their usage hasn't been paying attention. All appliances have their kW rating on them or in their user manual. Anything with a motor or heating element will be a big user.

My shower is the highest rated in my house at 6kW on high setting. It's not rocket science to use the lower heat setting and shower very quickly once a month :D
 
Boro-exile, what TFG said. I put only slightly inflated readings in on the last rate uplift and the gas calculation was 'held' for a few days checking, they eventially let it go, must have been close though.
Although, depending on how clever their software is the billing DD projections will be out of kelter as when the high rates kick in evryeone's routine will change i.e. no money no usage or "I'm not 'effin paying that" even if I do have t'ut cash etc. etc.
 
ThePrisoner said:
I haven't had a manual meter reading by any energy company for a decade I think and probably a lot longer than that.

I don't have a Smart meter. Anyone who needs one to manage their usage hasn't been paying attention. All appliances have their kW rating on them or in their user manual. Anything with a motor or heating element will be a big user.

My shower is the highest rated in my house at 6kW on high setting. It's not rocket science to use the lower heat setting and shower very quickly once a month :D
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Aye I'm quite sure when people are struggling to manage their electricity spending what they'll want to do is hunt down the kw rating from labels and manuals, work out the amount of time they've used it for and calculate the price and then do that for all their appliances instead of seeing it in real time for electricity or half hourly for gas and seeing exactly how much they're using and how much they have spent.

Quite why anyone would want to do that is frankly beyond me.
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
Aye I'm quite sure when people are struggling to manage their electricity spending what they'll want to do is hunt down the kw rating from labels and manuals, work out the amount of time they've used it for and calculate the price and then do that for all their appliances instead of seeing it in real time for electricity or half hourly for gas and seeing exactly how much they're using and how much they have spent.

Quite why anyone would want to do that is frankly beyond me.
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The novelty of seeing it in real time will wear off very quickly. Know which appliances are the big consumers is all you need to know. I read the meters every month and stick the numbers into a calculation that a ten year old could do in Excel.
You'd think it takes hours to work out what is using the energy and the cost. It doesn't.

Any data you give to the energy company will be used to maximise their profits. i.e. probably against you. Surely we know by now not to give data away to any corporation?
 
ThePrisoner said:
The novelty of seeing it in real time will wear off very quickly. Know which appliances are the big consumers is all you need to know. I read the meters every month and stick the numbers into a calculation that a ten year old could do in Excel.
You'd think it takes hours to work out what is using the energy and the cost. It doesn't.

Any data you give to the energy company will be used to maximise their profits. i.e. probably against you. Surely we know by now not to give data away to any corporation?
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Had it for 4 years and the "novelty" of knowing my exactly costs instead of cracking out manual cost calculations on excel and timing things certainly hasn't and never will wear off. Ten year olds can also count pounds and pence but ask how many people do their own accounts rather than checking online banking that counts up your transactions for you and I think you'll struggle to find many that prefer doing it manually. Of course it doesn't take hours, it's excel, but it's an absolute Luddite task to be doing manually when a device can do it for you and do it in real time. Do you draw pictures instead of taking photos too?

I 100% disagree that you just need to know what the big appliances cost. We are talking about energy prices changing every 3 months and going up massively every time, the average family doesn't want to keep track of appliances and cost to run, and having an excel open doesn't tell you anything about how much energy is being used right now, e.g if something is being left on.

Peoples budgets are stretched, they need access to actual cost information not vague ideas of what a few things cost and learning formulas and applying standing charges to know where they stand
 
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