Electric cars

Pak_Doo_Ik said:
Not yet but there are plans. I think as you say for urban based mid mileage electric cars work, I think I heard the average car journey in the UK is about 35 miles amd for that electric cars are fantastic.
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Yeaj if you do that much driving in a day a diesel is still for you. Realistically only the Korean manufacturers make something that fits your budget and range
 
Porsche have just announced they're investing in bio-fuels, they think it's more sustainable than electric.

Itll be interesting where this goes, because they are claiming they can find a solution that is compatible with petrol engines.
 
SmallTown said:
Find an electric car that sounds great. Sorry I just realised who I'm talking to. I should have expected an idiotic comment from you
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Exactly... You can't. You said you could find me what I want.

You obviously can't and therefore electric doesn't work for me.

Out of idle curiosity... Take away the sound part... I bet you still can't.

Ps it's only idiotic because you don't agree with me. You are allowed to not agree you know without abuse.
 
SmallTown said:
How much is a normal corsa? Factoring in the extra monthly costs?
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I honestly wouldn't know.

I drive a 1.4 Astra Elite that I paid £14,000 for. I pay £10.93 a month road tax and get it serviced twice per year - once prior to my holiday (June) and again in November. I usually do around 15,000 miles a year. The last service cost me £110 and all previous services around £90.

Although the car is depreciating, it is not to the tune of £13,860 - PCP rental for that Corsa.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
I honestly wouldn't know.

I drive a 1.4 Astra Elite that I paid £14,000 for. I pay £10.93 a month road tax and get it serviced twice per year - once prior to my holiday (June) and again in November. I usually do around 15,000 miles a year. The last service cost me £110 and all previous services around £90.

Although the car is depreciating, it is not to the tune of £13,860 - PCP rental for that Corsa.
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Do you put fuel in it?
 
Cost is obviously a major factor for most people, but where do a good few million people who live in flats and terraced houses charge? Also the 80p a litre the government currently steals from us where will that come from in the future?
 
SmallTown said:
Yeaj if you do that much driving in a day a diesel is still for you. Realistically only the Korean manufacturers make something that fits your budget and range
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That Kia does look good and the mileage is impressive. I've got another 12 months till my car is due to be changed so hopefully then I can go to electric. Especially when I add in the fact that hopefully remote working will become more of a thing and mileage starts to drop to a better level.
 
Pak_Doo_Ik said:
When things get back to normal, I have to drive 65 miles to my office daily and then obviously 65 miles home, I then have other journeys that are around 100-150 miles each way, anything over that I tend to look at public transport and/or stopping over, is there an electric car that is moderately priced that can do this?
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An ID3 does about 200 miles range, so that does your office and back easily, they're about 35k. The 200-300 mile trips would need you to stop somewhere for up to an hour, like a services, which I would expect most would do anyway when driving 300 miles. Or two half hour stops.

A Tesla model 3, will do about 230 mile range for the basic one, they are about 40k.

The initial outlay is expensive, compared to petrol, but if you're concerned about range, then it's because you do a ton of miles, and if you do a ton of miles it will save you a ton in fuel costs.

With electric you also save on maintenance, tax, company car tax, will hold values better/ depreciate less.

I've probably needed to charge mine in public maybe 5 times, since September, and I do about 20k miles a year. The time I've spent doing that is less than I would have spent filling up with petrol in that time, it's crazy. The range is just not a problem for probably 90% of people and if people drive a half-decent car or a new car then an electric will probably work out cheaper when the whole cost of ownership is included, factoring in for everything associated with motoring.
 
ChrisTheRed said:
Cost is obviously a major factor for most people, but where do a good few million people who live in flats and terraced houses charge? Also the 80p a litre the government currently steals from us where will that come from in the future?
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I can’t charge at home and I survive. Charge it once a week, whilst I’m out shopping
 
SmallTown said:
How much is a normal corsa? Factoring in the extra monthly costs?
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I had an 18k corsa, new in 2012, it ended up costing me more than nearly every car I've sad since which includes two new 3 series BWM's a new 5 series, and a 1 year old 4 series, when factoring in the massive depreciation over the first 2-3 years, which is often how long I keep cars.

Buying new cars that are low spec and not from prime manufacturers can end up costing a fortune, especially if people do those on finance. The ticket price isn't the price, it's far from the price.
 
Andy_W said:
I think there's an ID4 out soo which will sell well, and I think I seen a "leak" for a model 2 also.
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Maybe. There are a few issues with the ID 3 not up to standard VW build quality. But most EV manufacturers improve with their second attempt. Same car but I’ve driven both the original and the new Nissan Leaf and the new one (despite having an outdated charger) is a big leap ahead
 
Andy_W said:
I had an 18k corsa, new in 2012, it ended up costing me more than nearly every car I've sad since which includes two new 3 series BWM's a new 5 series, and a 1 year old 4 series, when factoring in the massive depreciation over the first 2-3 years, which is often how long I keep cars.

Buying new cars that are low spec and not from prime manufacturers can end up costing a fortune, especially if people do those on finance. The ticket price isn't the price, it's far from the price.
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VW e-up? Cheapish car from a premium manufacturer
 
SmallTown said:
Do you put fuel in it?
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At the moment it costs me around £40 a fortnight to fill it up. I never let it go below the quarter mark and usually only do 14 miles 5 days per week. Today is the first time I've drove it since Friday other than to move it to get the bin out, due to it being half term.

My main mileage is done in the summer when we drive to France. Once we get to our destination, it sits idol most days for the 6 weeks.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, they are the future and at the moment it is like getting people to move from a horse drawn carriage to a car - a bit exaggerated, but you get my point. Eventually it will happen.
 
SmallTown said:
Maybe. There are a few issues with the ID 3 not up to standard VW build quality. But most EV manufacturers improve with their second attempt. Same car but I’ve driven both the original and the new Nissan Leaf and the new one (despite having an outdated charger) is a big leap ahead
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I know a couple of people with the ID3, they love them and they look decent too and have a good basic spec.

No idea about build quality like, but that's the good thing about a warranty!
 
Norman_Conquest said:
At the moment it costs me around £40 a fortnight to fill it up. I never let it go below the quarter mark and usually only do 14 miles 5 days per week. Today is the first time I've drove it since Friday other than to move it to get the bin out, due to it being half term.

My main mileage is done in the summer when we drive to France. Once we get to our destination, it sits idol most days for the 6 weeks.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, they are the future and at the moment it is like getting people to move from a horse drawn carriage to a car - a bit exaggerated, but you get my point. Eventually it will happen.
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You probably don't even need a car (other than convenience), it would probably be more cost-effective to use taxis (which will be electric in a few years) midweek and hire a car to go to France :)
 
I’ve taken my EV to France. It was a good trip. Did need to charge a bit but the batteries lasted longer than my bladder! I tend to stop for lunch at charge time so I can fill up
 
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