Most modern EV will make it 140 miles on a single charge though; so you’re arguing for something that will cease to exist soon.
Why can’t it?
Because different conditions affect the battery. There is a range you "can" achieve but it's not the one you "will" achieve every time and things like temperature especially really make a difference. Too hot is an issue as well as too cold but we don't really get too hot enough for it to be an issue in the UK.
I know. I still don’t understand why it can’t be. Although I confess I don’t actually keep a record because as I keep reiterating it doesn’t actually matter. I never used to get out of my ice car and think “hang on, I got 38 mpg on that drive, yet my manufacturer told me I would get 42. And I think that’s the critical point. The anti EV crowd make a huge song and dance about range, to a really very silly extent, and EV owners just plug in and don’t give it a second thought
You can't be serious? There's a very obvious difference. It's not world ending but it's very noticeable.
Some ICE cars have a "range" of 300 miles". I'm perfectly serious. Look I Have said this before, I get it, you don't understand how EV are refuelled and it makes you scared. I totally understand you being confused. I'm just pointing out the difference between what you think about cars range and reality. It's OK mate, when you get your first EV you'll have a hallelujah moment where you understand what I'm saying.
I think he is on about an EV
Cars are cars mate. It's one of the other points I'm trying to get through. People bash EV for things that are also a problem in ICE cars.
This shows you are clearly not listening. I have an EV, have done for nearly 3 years and will be ordering my next EV soon. I am speaking with the experience of an EV owner. Owning an EV doesn't mean you have to be evangelical about them being perfect. Some ICE cars do have a short range. My previous car was a hybrid and on long journeys they behave like an ICE because 20m of electric doesn't go far. That had a 300m range and it was also a bit of a pain but a stop to fill an ICE takes seconds and is hassle free.
Journeys aren't all one way. If I have a 120 mile journey each way (which I do when I go visit family) then I have to stop to recharge on the way home in the winter but I don't in the summer because I can get there and back on one charge. The return journey takes 2.5 hours instead of 2.
I have been doing a similar journey regularly and have done for over 30 years well before the A43 was duel carrigeway and the Newbury bypass on the A34 was still a nightmare for swampy's bedtimes .
Nowhere near you destination you can charge? Honestly filling an ICE doesn't take "seconds" but it's fine, carry on with the ridiculous FUD lines. I see them all the time. They make me laugh. If you do have an EV you know you're taking the mickey
There are places "near" my destination if by near you mean within the town but that means spending 45 mins of my time visiting sat by myself at a coffee shop. My destination is someone's house and they don't have an EV, or even an accessible 3 pin socket. There is nowhere I can drop it off at and walk back to. This isn't FUD, it's real world examples and it's not one location. I've got friends and family that I visit regularly all over the country and not a single one of them has an EV charger at their home or a nearby destination charger. Pretty much all my visits to friends and family means I have to spend some time during the weekend sat in my car while it charges which I wouldn't be doing with an ICE.
I know cars are cars, but you've made a fairly odd rant about when he gets his first EV, when he has an EV.
You're wasting your breath mate
He goes off on one whenever the topic comes up and after making wild accusations and assumptions, there's no middle ground to be had.
I'm not. I'm saying they are over stated, exaggerated or no different too the same preform in an ICE. As I said 99% of journeys in the UK ate under 100 miles. People need to use extremes such as yourself who has to do 280 without charging.
Again it seems everyone who wants to compassion about EV has to do 200 miles plus every journey. Seems we have a website of driving extremists! This website must have all of the 1%You're wasting your breath mate
FWIW, I've had my Hyundai Ioniq for coming up 4 years now and agree with everything you say. For 90% of my driving, my EV is perfect. It's cheap, lovely to drive and it's been a bargain too as my lease was ridiculously low which was compounded by the really cheap charging. The TCO has been great and I'm looking at buying a second hand Polestar 2 next year.
For the 230 mile trips I take back to Teesside, I've largely sussed charging options but even then, due to my car only taking 50 kw max, it adds about 45-60 minutes to the one way journey time, but that's only if I manage to get a good charger and dont have to queue.
Thankfully the public charging situation has gotten a bit better this year but the last 18 months were a pain in the ****, which I think even Smalltown agrees on.
Sounds daft but we get the kids from school at 3.30pm and the additional 45 -90 mins can be the difference between us going out for dinner on the Friday evening or not, which makes the most of the weekend.
This is a bit of a pain because I can't change the time the kids finish school and in my ICE we would be pretty much be guaranteed to get back for 7ish unless there was an accident in the motorway.
The most recent trip we made home, we had to wait 25 minutes for a charger at Barnsley and then with charging time of 50 minutes to get to 80%, we got into Boro at 8.45pm.
I then still had to go and charge again soon after we landed to ensure a return trip to Whitby the next day was sorted.
This is a real life scenario and nobody is going to die, but it is inconvenient when you've only got a short amount of time to visit family and want to make the most of it rather than ******* about.
I'll not be changing back though. The drop in second hand EVs has come at a good time for me and I'll be upgrading the car to one which can do the trip to Teesside in one go next year. I'm not sure if my kids are not keeping sufficiently hydrated or something, but despite what others have said above, a 3.5 hour run without a **** stop is no issue at all for us.
Haha. You were mental. They aren't extreme examples. They are regular real world examples. They aren't hypothetical or theoretical. 100 miles isn't far. People regularly travel 100 miles. Most people don't have an EV charger for you to use at their house and destination chargers don't exist. Any that do are usually 1 or 2 per 1000 cars so might as well be 0.
