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Funky_Chicken said:
For actively seeding Covid into care homes last year by not testing those returning to care homes from hospitals, resulting in 20000 deaths of the most vulnerable, that alone should see Johnson an co facing corporate manslaughter charges - that was negligence bordering on murder




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No
What’s even worse and literally NOONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS is that testing has been and continues to be a shambles
Why isn’t everyone being tested to establish who the asymptomatic are among us
This approach would’ve prevented lockdown 3 & 3 !!
FFS why isn’t everyone jumping up and down about this !!!!!
 
Funky_Chicken said:
For actively seeding Covid into care homes last year by not testing those returning to care homes from hospitals, resulting in 20000 deaths of the most vulnerable, that alone should see Johnson an co facing corporate manslaughter charges - that was negligence bordering on murder




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30,000 deaths in care homes and culpable negligence on the part of Johnson and his government. 20000 were wiped out in wave 1 thanks to the protective ring that Matt Hancock threw around them.

He has been uselessness personified throughout. Most uk citizens clearly see that. Even the Tory press have grown sick of his b.s. and incompetence.

The imbecile demonstrated yesterday, yet again, that he still does not know how to wear a mask. At least he seems to have got hand washing routine sorted now. Carrie probably explained what 20 secs looks like with a photo of young Wilfred.
 
Until we as a nation accept that we can't return to any sort of normality until we drive the infection figures right down then we'll never move out of this cycle.
We haven't learned any lessons after all this time as we now have MPs and journalists asking for a timescale when schools will go back when what we need to do is test, track and trace as much of the population as possible and get the infection numbers down to insignificant levels. Sadly we've ***ed about with track and trace and left testing to those with symptoms rather than testing in the community.
We keep seeing a recurring desire to get pubs open, open restaurants, have Christmas with family etc, but at no point have we been sufficiently in control of the virus to do any of those things.
 
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Chris_Boro said:
It's a pointless question to this thread, unless you're implying it's not really 100,000 covid deaths as per government figures?

If not, then answer my question you ignored.
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I simply do not believe we have had 100k deaths solely caused by Covid. So there is your answer.
 
People "believe" what they like.
You can deny that poverty and relative deprivation impacts on physical and mental health - but the demographics of those on hospital corridors and clinicians working beyond breaking point says different.
Diseases and health conditions are often co-morbid: a weakened immune system leads to patients being more vulnerable to other infections and conditions.
The underlying cause of death varies, but covid 19 is the final blow which has killed patients.
 
Funky_Chicken said:
For actively seeding Covid into care homes last year by not testing those returning to care homes from hospitals, resulting in 20000 deaths of the most vulnerable, that alone should see Johnson an co facing corporate manslaughter charges - that was negligence bordering on murder




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Not just Johnson but his whole inner circle.

Once things are much safer and we are through the eye of the storm this is something Labour need to squeeze the Tories on until the pips squeak.

They are currently running the spin that the vaccine rollout (thank you again NHS) is a massive Tory success and the government have been way ahead of the EU on this.

They are also now running the argument that it is old, fat, lazy and unhealthy poor people who have put us in this mess.

I think the manslaughter issue should be properly looked at.
 
HolgateCorner said:
Not just Johnson but his whole inner circle.

Once things are much safer and we are through the eye of the storm this is something Labour need to squeeze the Tories on until the pips squeak.

They are currently running the spin that the vaccine rollout (thank you again NHS) is a massive Tory success and the government have been way ahead of the EU on this.

They are also now running the argument that it is old, fat, lazy and unhealthy poor people who have put us in this mess.

I think the manslaughter issue should be properly looked at.
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I've noticed the Tories in recent interviews "ramping up" the blame on the elderly and unhealthy to justify the unjustifiable death toll.

Namely one Teresa Coffey on GMB, who threw a hissy fit when challenged on her words, who also rather hypocritically, certainly fits the unhealthy lifestyle category.

This government will not accept any culpability for this crisis and aided by the sympathetic media will frame the narrative that its all our fault.

Anyone who attempts to hold them to account simply will not get the air time to do so with Boris Johnson and his ministers getting away with lying to the commons at will.

The sad part is that 40% of the electorate will lap it up.
 
ChrisTheRed said:
Yes but the figures aren't being matched with that though are they
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excess deaths can be calculated on a daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, or even a rolling 12 month window....the data exists, it's up to the person seeking to provide a message how they slice it. What I do know is that resetting to zero on the 1st of January is irrelevant and when quantifying government performance, from last March to today is the most complete and revealing period to measure and shows what an absolute shower of grifters this government are.
 
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