David Beckhams Cornrows

ThatFragranceGuy said:
I'd be more interested in hearing what people of the cultures being aped make of it, after decades or even centuries of being mocked or persecuted over things, over what middle aged white footy fan make of it. Many might be ok with it, but many aren't.


The argument that it is harmless or even tributary often comes out but reality is it's often charicarured or stereotyped. How many Indian head dresses are culturally appropriate and not village people style for example?

We've only just gotten rid of things like golly and people still say nothing wrong with those.

A good example I can think of is the Washington Redskins

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There was a huge backlash about it.


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I love this video.really glad they did change their name.


Of course there will be culture war rage about it from the usual right wing media about how it's PC gawnnnn maddddd but corn rows, dreads, Bantu knots etc will have had people fired or persecuted previously so I can 100% understand people being ***ed off or becoming white fashion or used as fancy dress
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Understand what you are saying Fragrance but the question is - what's the line? I think your redskins example is bang on the money and it's claer that that should have stopped before it did. But there were 45,000 people there on Saturday with many styles on show. There were definitely dreads on several skin tones. Should they be risking eviction?

But my main point was - why is this deemed worse than every other clothing? Turn up in a nazi outfit is fine but no T-shirts featuring a chinese dragon?
 
Yet another issue that doesn’t effect 99% of the population but gets a headline because of the obsession with culture wars that the media currently has.
 
Reminds me of an incident a few years ago. A bunch of us attended a folk festival together for a decade or so. On one occasion, one of our party, a young West African lady had a couple of problems that me (and mainly) Mrs R were able to help resolve. As a thanks, for the next year she had woven bracelets for us both (and one for the dog), incorporating our names in the Rasta colours. We still have them, but would not feel comfortable wearing them, as I'm most definitely not a Rasta and people would not know the history. The dog looked cool in anything, of course.
Is this 'cultural misappropriation?
 
Scrote said:
Just for clarity "mansplaining" refers to a man explaining something to a woman that didn't really need explaining.

Happy to help.
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In a patronising way, surely. What is it when its the other way round? Or do only men do that?

"to explain something to a woman in a condescending way that assumes she has no knowledge about the topic"

Its not exclusive to men > women, and I think terms like this do way more harm than good. I prefer to use proper words like patronising and condescending. Not something that's been invented by some blogger that's steeped in identity politics.

Anyway its off topic, cultural appropriation is another term that does way more harm than good in my view, but probably got someone's wordpress page a lot of hits.
 
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atypical_boro said:
In a patronising way, surely. What is it when its the other way round? Or do only men do that?

"to explain something to a woman in a condescending way that assumes she has no knowledge about the topic"

Its not exclusive to men > women, and I think terms like this do way more harm than good. I prefer to use proper words like patronising and condescending. Not something that's been invented by some blogger that's steeped in identity politics.

Anyway its off topic, cultural appropriation is another term that does way more harm than good in my view, but probably got someone's wordpress page a lot of hits.
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Whoosh. I think. He was 'mansplaining' it to you.
 
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