So, when defending Small Town and his decision to vote Tory, we can conclude that, talking of red lines, 10 yrs of austerity, spiralling child poverty, increased homelessness, the fact that the leader of the party is a lying, deceitful chancer...none of these were said red lines.
Or indeed was the one major electoral promise made. Get Brexit done, whatever the cost. Even though he is so vehemently opposed to it, and believes anyone who voted for it is as thick as pig muck. And tells them so. Often.
I can see why people don't take him seriously
If you're posting to me, can you use the quote, please? Anyway, assuming you are, I'm not defending anyone. I'm saying there might be 1000 reasons why people vote one way, and I've no idea of the 1000 for me, never mind anyone else, so I certainly wouldn't assume.
A lot of the tory policies are/ were crap, especially for certain groups, I'm not saying they aren't, that's why I don't vote tory. Although I have in the past and it would be more economical for me and my business if I did now, but I won't/ don't. Peoples opinions and priorities change, and some see that the economy might have suffered more with labour after the recession or with JC in 2019, even if we did remain. I'm not saying this is or isn't the case, as I can't say what labour would have done.
We were likely leaving anyway, whether the Tories or Labour got in, and the combined probability of both was probably over 90% leave, from what the markets were saying. It's possibly also irrelevant who you vote for, if you know labour were going to take a beating anyway? So you could use the vote tactically, locally. I don't think anyone had confidence in JC making us remain, even if he fully campaigned for that (which he didn't) and had the ability to win the election (which he didn't).
Could be a case of you don't like JC, want him out, don't think labour will win, so you vote tory to help your personal circumstances or you might just like the tory MP and hope by getting a Tory MP you get looked after better if/ when the inevitable Brexit happens? I'm not saying that's what did happen, but it certainly could. I F***ing hate the current tories, they're miles worse than they were 10 years ago, 2 years ago or even 5 years ago, but it doesn't mean I would vote against the TVM, Ben Houchen, for example.
"get brexit done" didn't mean much, just like most of the leave false promises which enver/ won't materialise, maybe he thought the tories couldn't/ wouldn't deliver it? Also, the slogan didn't include "whatever the cost", the tories also tried to hide what the economic cost would be, behind a reliance on the hate of immigrants etc.
Statistically more people with higher education/ qualifications voted remain, as do more that are in uni/ etc, same as nurses, doctors, teachers, financial workers, all mostly need good (above average) education, all mostly voted remain doesn't mean that all brexiters are "thick as pig muck", but it doesn't mean that some aren't either. Same as there are some remainers who are also "thick as pig muck".
You can call people thick though if they are thick, you can also call them thick if they aren't, it's an opinion I suppose. But you can gather what sort of grasp some people have on reality, by what they post, if it's devoid of fact, reason or has any sort of quality backing then they may not be the most in touch.
I think the brexiters just all find him annoying and relentless, and may also see him as being hypocritical, which is their choice, but it's not that simple. But it's hard to disagree with the posts he makes, which is why it seems to me that more go after him personally, before going after debating the posts. Maybe just focus on the posts, block him or don't read it?
**** me what a glorious day.
