COVID perspective

Odds of dying are a million to one? How can that be the case with a mortality rate of around 1%?

I personally know two people who have succumb to it!
 
Odds of dying are a million to one? How can that be the case with a mortality rate of around 1%?

I personally know two people who have succumb to it!
I know 2 people, one in his 60s, just retired and no health problems. The other had health issues. I don't know 2 million people.
 
We’re doing well Bear. I wish I knew two lottery winners.

with 44k dead, out of a population of 66mil (if everyone in the country had had it, the death rate would be what 1 in 1500 ish?
 
Yeah those odds are way off. I don’t disagree with that sentiment that we can’t live in fear forever, and our children shouldn’t have to, but at the moment there is still work to do before we can just treat it like other illnesses. We need to at least see for sure if it’s seasonal and/or if herd immunity is building. But I do think people have to get comfortable with their own risks. If I was elderly now I’d be thinking “this is a **** way to live now, I could be dead next year, I’m gonna take my chances and enjoy what I have left”.
 
Yeah those odds are way off. I don’t disagree with that sentiment that we can’t live in fear forever, and our children shouldn’t have to, but at the moment there is still work to do before we can just treat it like other illnesses. We need to at least see for sure if it’s seasonal and/or if herd immunity is building. But I do think people have to get comfortable with their own risks. If I was elderly now I’d be thinking “this is a **** way to live now, I could be dead next year, I’m gonna take my chances and enjoy what I have left”.

I think being able to look at the situation and change behaviour accordingly is important. I was a mess early in the pandemic, drinking pretty heavily and didn't even dare to go for a walk. Now I'm much better and will happily go for lunch at my local. Whats helped me is the weekly map showing local cases in my area for the past week. If it's not surrounding my village (which it hasn't so far) happy days, I'll eat and drink out etc. If we got some cases in the village, I'd probably reign it in a bit.
 
The whole lockdown thing has affected me mentally and at times during the last 6 months I've struggled.
I'm sure there are millions like me but I'm on the fence with Covid and think that we do have to avoid another national lockdown at all costs but also have a blance of what is normality now.

I must be one of the only people who thinks the new 6 rule is actually a good idea, it's not about the people who have been trying to socially distance, wash hands, adhere to Track & Trace etc, it's about telling the people who haven't used common sense or just selfishly took no notice of the guidance, that you need to get back on board so we can all suppress this horrible virus.

Here's hoping that from today we start seeing a bit more common sense prevail.

P.s. I went to a Pub on friday night. You had to book beforehand, had an allocated table and table service was working well.
 
The economy is wrecked and the media are creating a huge panic for people on a daily basis. I actually think people are starting to get really fed up of it all now - and are doing all they can to live a normal life - taking more risks etc.

I understand around 5 people are dying a day from it. Is that the sort of figure we need to be destroying the economy/peoples livelyhoods for?

I can't say I disagree with the opening post.
 
I lost my dad to Covid. I'm as frustrated as anyone with this virus and long for 'normality'. The last couple of weeks it's taken all my strength not to have a go at people who have disregarded masks in supermarkets and stores...especially as they're quite openly bragging about not wearing one. Seriously, what's the big deal about wearing a mask? What stopped me is the fact that I was with my young daughter and I couldn't trust myself to keep my cool if I questioned them.
 
It's ridiculous to compare Covid-19 to cancer. For one thing, cancer isn't a single disease, it's a multiplicity of different diseases with some overall similarities.

Some forms of cancer already have highly effective treatments available, especially if detected early enough (others not so much).

Also, cancer will not spread from person to person in an exponential fashion if left unchecked.
 
42,000 people died prematurely (i.e. under 75) last year in Uk from coronary heart disease. Doesnt seem to be too much concern about the nations health regarding this statistic. We should also be informing the nation on the news every night regarding the daily death rate from coronary heart disease.
 
I'm the same. Lost my dad, had the virus myself and have the antibody but still wear a mask. I was in a que for a carvery last week, stood 2 metres apart with floor markings and a bloke in his late 60s walked in front of me without a mask and stood in the space between me and the next customer. I waited for him to notice and he was completely oblivious. I chose not to say anything as I may have lost my ****.
 
It's real, it's awful, the effects on health will be ongoing. Life could maybe go on similar to before, but when people can't even be bothered to keep their fellow human safe by wearing a mouth/nose covering, social distancing etc then we'll pay for the price. Blame those who treat this as a hoax and a 'scamdemic'. Halfwits.
 
42,000 people died prematurely (i.e. under 75) last year in Uk from coronary heart disease. Doesnt seem to be too much concern about the nations health regarding this statistic. We should also be informing the nation on the news every night regarding the daily death rate from coronary heart disease.

You cant catch coronary heart disease, I would guess thats why its not as widely reported.....
 
The economy is wrecked and the media are creating a huge panic for people on a daily basis. I actually think people are starting to get really fed up of it all now - and are doing all they can to live a normal life - taking more risks etc.

I understand around 5 people are dying a day from it. Is that the sort of figure we need to be destroying the economy/peoples livelyhoods for?

I can't say I disagree with the opening post.

The reason that these measures are put in place is to keep the death rate as low as 5 a day, look at what happened earlier in the year, this virus has the potential to go from a few deaths to over a thousand a day in a very short space of time. How can that be so difficult to understand?
 
The economy is wrecked and the media are creating a huge panic for people on a daily basis. I actually think people are starting to get really fed up of it all now - and are doing all they can to live a normal life - taking more risks etc.

I understand around 5 people are dying a day from it. Is that the sort of figure we need to be destroying the economy/peoples livelyhoods for?

I can't say I disagree with the opening post.

Then change the economy to suit what's best for the population.

Maximising production year on year for the sake of profit needs to be tempered.
 
42,000 people died prematurely (i.e. under 75) last year in Uk from coronary heart disease. Doesnt seem to be too much concern about the nations health regarding this statistic. We should also be informing the nation on the news every night regarding the daily death rate from coronary heart disease.

Beyond the very good points JM14 makes, I would also argue there is a big awareness of heart disease as seen in adverts around healthy eating, doctors promoting healthy living and NHS funded groups to help people lose weight and become healthier.
 
Got to love the armchair experts saying let's effectively just ignore it, really basic argument that surprise surprise appeals to the lowest common denominator idiots. There is absolutely no chance this government would willingly do anything to jeopardise the economy if they could possibly help it. Therefore safe to say the majority of scientific experts (not some random bloke on Facebook) believe it needs suppressing still for many good reasons.

We do need to learn to find a balance and ways to live with it obviously, but the posts you see on social media like the OP aren't particularly helpful.

Agree with the sentiment that people need to apply their own common sense, take a judgement on what activities based on their own risk. But they also need to think of others too and take sensible precautions (eh face masks). That's just common courtesy and respect for others.
 
I know 3 people who are challenging their families death certificates as they have Covid-19 as the cause of death, when they died of the long term illnesses they had. Covid was detected when they went to hospital but they showed no signs of the illness. If I know 3 how many others are there with false causes of death out there. I'd imagine 10's of thousands. The numbers are a complete fabrication
 
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