Covid deniers and anti maskers

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Why is it that on Twitter the people who are for ruining our kid’s education and future, creating a mental health crisis, shutting small business and hospitality always have pronouns, FBPE/BLM and a mask (sometimes 2) picture in their bio?? Do left wingers love being controlled by an authoritarian government?? Strange one

 

[Andy_W]

What a load of drivel

How so? Please be specific.

Before we start, do you know my own eyes, ears, workplace, company, friends and contacts better than me? Nope, you don't.

 

[SmallTown]

Why is it that on Twitter the people who are for ruining our kid’s education and future, creating a mental health crisis, shutting small business and hospitality always have pronouns, FBPE/BLM and a mask (sometimes 2) picture in their bio?? Do left wingers love being controlled by an authoritarian government?? Strange one

"New member "

Hmmm

 

[Andy_W]

Absolute drivel. I voted for brexit...... so now i'm a racist?

You have an agenda, your previous posts show that. Accept that people can have a different view to you and that doesn't mean they don't like "brown faces" and chill out abit

I didn't say that, did I? Why not just stick to the facts instead of trying to twist my words.

I said a lot did, a lot that I know, and a lot that I see all over social media.
I didn't say you did, you seem to be capable of drawing that conclusion yourself.

I said there was a correlation, as there is, this does not mean every single person fits all of those criteria, I was very clear about this in my post.

I don't have any agenda (other than there is a massive racism problem), I just say it as it is, for what I see every day and what my friends also see every day.

You're ashamed to be in the same group of people that spread hate and racism, that's fine, you should be ashamed of them, but you need their votes to get you the "win".

There's a racism problem in the UK, whether you like it or not, I think that it's about 15-20% of voters, roughly the same amount that wanted a hard Brexit at any economic cost, and the people all the posters of foreign people were aimed at.

Not all Brexit voters are racist, far from it, most aren't racist. But you can bet every racist voted for Brexit, if they were smart enough to make their own way to the polling station.

Regarding "brown faces", that was what I used to tone down the actual words used, you can probably guess what it was, it starts with "N" and ends with "er". Some of them were even using the Pakistan abbreviation, not sure why mind, as it's not in the EU, and leaving the EU will probably increase "all world" immigration.

 

[Erimus74]

I don't think know low lives is the right word. The original point is anti masters and anti vaxxers or LIKELY to be brexiteers.
Which makes total sense to me. All opinions are predicated on ignoring science and facts. All three opinions are based on ether a willful ignorance or a real failure to grasp what the subjects are about. It's people choosing emotion and what they think over actual critical thinking and studying of facts. There is definitely a correlation there.

We'll there's a suprise SmallTown, who'd have thought you would have thought any different

 

[Erimus74]

Absolute drivel. I voted for brexit...... so now i'm a racist?

You have an agenda, your previous posts show that. Accept that people can have a different view to you and that doesn't mean they don't like "brown faces" and chill out abit

Cooper well a coding to some of the comments on here because I voted Labour, as did others under Tony Blair, then we're obviously war mongrels then

 

[SmallTown]

We'll there's a suprise SmallTown, who'd have thought you would have thought any different

Rather than a personal insult, try addressing the points I made in the post. It may make you feel better. It'll certainly make you look less ignorant.

 

[The Card Cheat]

Why is it that on Twitter the people who are for ruining our kid’s education and future, creating a mental health crisis, shutting small business and hospitality always have pronouns, FBPE/BLM and a mask (sometimes 2) picture in their bio?? Do left wingers love being controlled by an authoritarian government?? Strange one

Nobody and I mean nobody is "for" those things. It's like attacking somebody for being supportive of the horrible side effects of chemotherapy.
Lockdowns and the huge challenges they present are a necessary evil to save many many people's lives. Something which is a fact.
People who deny this are either stupid or motivated by their own selfish agenda.

 

[Andy_W]

Andy does sound racist London TBH, he's mentioned that word twice in two consecutive posts & all from an initial post about non mask wearers

What on earth are you on about? You've put 2 + 2 together and got 634978934, and you've done that selectively. I'm the most anti-racist person I know (apart from 3 Asian and 2 African guys in my circle of close friends, and maybe 20 or so other minorities I work with weekly).

I literally had to "lose" four people after the Brexit vote (more to go this year I think), so I sacked four for being racist (they all voted out btw). Most of my posts on here have been in the context of saying the UK has a massive racism problem (racists don't ever to do this).

I also didn't say it twice, I said it once, and the exact context was below:

"Not really, anyone sane would have a go at the government, even Tory voters. A lot of Tory voters last time are plastic, they only voted tory as racism overcame their preference for being employed (this actually happened at my workplace, 10 people pretty much voted against having a job, because they don't like brown faces)."

Obviously, in the context that term is not being used in a racist way, and the term used is to replace much worse comments that were made by these racist clowns.

The initial post was talking about deniers and non-mask wearers, threads change, that's what happens on a forum. Others noted that this also correlated with Brexit voters and Tories, which I've also noticed (I had noticed this years ago).

 

[Erimus74]

Rather than a personal insult, try addressing the points I made in the post. It may make you feel better. It'll certainly make you look less ignorant.

How is that a personnel insult, I've not name called you I just pointed out that I'm not surprised you posted as such
Naming people who voted Brexit, similar tale all through this thread
It just seems people can't have a debate about something without signalling, or changing it around to vent more of their anger
As I said on a previous thread on here the word Brexit didn't need to be mentioned but from non mask wearers we've gone over the same old ground to finally racism, surprised blue passports haven't been mentioned yet

 

[Andy_W]

Cooper well a coding to some of the comments on here because I voted Labour, as did others under Tony Blair, then we're obviously war mongrels then

Nobody said that did they? Another silly comment from yourself, clutching at straws that don't exist.

Just FYI, I voted Labour back then too, and actually went to war under Blair, did you?

Loads criticise Blair, but only with the hindsight of what we learned in the subsequent 17 years. The UK was misled by the US, who were misled by their own intelligence agencies. Everyone was lied to, so ultimately the decision made was probably incorrect, most of those who voted for the war have since switched sides.

 

[SmallTown]

How is that a personnel insult, I've not name called you I just pointed out that I'm not surprised you posted as such
Naming people who voted Brexit, similar tale all through this thread
It just seems people can't have a debate about something without signalling, or changing it around to vent more of their anger
As I said on a previous thread on here the word Brexit didn't need to be mentioned but from non mask wearers we've gone over the same old ground to finally racism, surprised blue passports haven't been mentioned yet

That’s a great rant. You still didn’t address any of the points yet. Maybe third time is lucky?

 

[Londons_Moggie]

Remainers have developed the mindset of the racist. They have become so consumed with hate and anger towards a section of people who they deem to be beneath them and are happy to openly make up lies and demonise those people at will. It’s the dangerous mindset that allows racists to justify their beliefs. I genuinely pity them these days. Their minds have become infected with hate

 

[ThirdLeg]

That’s a great rant. You still didn’t address any of the points yet. Maybe third time is lucky?

"All three opinions are based on ether a willful ignorance or a real failure to grasp what the subjects are about"

I think this is a real failure to grasp that those subjects were about

 

[SmallTown]

"All three opinions are based on ether a willful ignorance or a real failure to grasp what the subjects are about"

I think this is a real failure to grasp that those subjects were about

That's what I'm trying to get across. People who are anti mask and anti vax either ignore science or try and argue against it. Brexit has a similar mindset. All reasonable arguments about the financial cost are ignored and argued against with ill thought out and nonsensical comments about migration or sovereignty.

 

[LaPennaBianca]

Remainers have developed the mindset of the racist. They have become so consumed with hate and anger towards a section of people who they deem to be beneath them and are happy to openly make up lies and demonise those people at will. It’s the dangerous mindset that allows racists to justify their beliefs. I genuinely pity them these days. Their minds have become infected with hate

People who don't want to get on board a with crackpot project led by Johnson, Raab, Patel and Gove now have the 'mindset of the racist'.

Brexit won and it's been delivered. Rather than enjoy that fact - difficult, I appreciate, given its myriad shortcomings in relation to what was promised - instead you choose to luxuriate in kicking those who lost.

Problem is, we all still have to share the same country, but the project was never about magnanimity in victory, was it!

I'm minded to think of Miguel de Unamuno's 'venceréis, pero no convenceréis' - but there's not even been an attempt to convince. Just this sort of thing.

 

[Londons_Moggie]

People who don't want to get on board a with crackpot project led by Johnson, Raab, Patel and Gove now have the 'mindset of the racist'.

Brexit won and it's been delivered. Rather than enjoy that fact - difficult, I appreciate, given its myriad shortcomings in relation to what was promised - instead you choose to luxuriate in kicking those who lost.

Problem is, we all still have to share the same country, but the project was never about magnanimity in victory, was it!

I'm minded to think of Miguel de Unamuno's 'venceréis, pero no convenceréis' - but there's not even been an attempt to convince. Just this sort of thing.

Who’s kicking who? Read the OP and subsequent replies. The fact is that many on the remain side can’t let things go and have had their minds infected with hate towards those people they have been brainwashed into believing are intellectually and morally beneath them. That’s how a racists mind works. Unfortunately there is no vaccination for their infection

 

[Andy_W]

Remainers have developed the mindset of the racist. They have become so consumed with hate and anger towards a section of people who they deem to be beneath them and are happy to openly make up lies and demonise those people at will. It’s the dangerous mindset that allows racists to justify their beliefs. I genuinely pity them these days. Their minds have become infected with hate

You're in cuckoo land

It's not anger or hate, it's bewilderment, well it is from me anyway. I'm amazed that so many can deny racism exists, or even deny that they vote on the same side as FRNJ's. It's laughable, that's why we keep bringing it up over and over again.

You can't say it's lies when people actually see it in their own lives and have it used against them, even if you do not see it, you cannot deny that others do not see it.

 

[SmallTown]

Who’s kicking who? Read the OP and subsequent replies. The fact is that many on the remain side can’t let things go and have had their minds infected with hate towards those people they have been brainwashed into believing are intellectually and morally beneath them. That’s how a racists mind works. Unfortunately there is no vaccination for their infection

Just because you can't see the correlation doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Surely even you can admit that brexit was voted for on emotions rather than rationale thought. One example I can think of is restrictions on freedom of movement. Its not rationale or sensible to want to restrict your own freedom of movement. However if you are of a certain mindset then you think that's a price to pay to restrict the movement of others.

 

[Londons_Moggie]

You're in cuckoo land

It's not anger or hate, it's bewilderment, well it is from me anyway. I'm amazed that so many can deny racism exists, or even deny that they vote on the same side as FRNJ's. It's laughable, that's why we keep bringing it up over and over again.

You can't say it's lies when people actually see it in their own lives and have it used against them, even if you do not see it, you cannot deny that others do not see it.

I vote Labour as I assume you do so you must accept that if Tory voters are racists we are anti semites. Your association with the Labour Party is as shameful as their association with the Conservative party. And it definitely is anger and hate