Covid and cardiovascular disease risk

Caesium137 said:
I'll wait to see what Joe Rogan and Alex Jones have to say before I believe it obviously............

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There'll no doubt be some on here along soon to say 'obsess over something else' or 'what can we do'.

It's incredible to me that people just want to turn a blind eye to the health risks here.
 
1finny said:
Lisa is probably the one with her finger on the pulse. what more proof do we need.
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I assume this is an attempt at sarcasm?

The thread links to a multitude of scientific studies proving the point, this isn't just a random person posting their view.
 
sherlock1969 said:
It's incredible to me that people just want to turn a blind eye to the health risks here.
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Not sure its that, but I guess most people are just willing to take their chances for the sake of a normal life. Pneumonia can kill you can't it? Some types of that are contagious. Same goes for a few other illnesses that can be spread silently, like meningitis. Covid is one of those illnesses that can affect people greatly, but more often than not doesn't.
 
atypical_boro said:
Not sure its that, but I guess most people are just willing to take their chances for the sake of a normal life. Pneumonia can kill you can't it? Some types of that are contagious. Same goes for a few other illnesses that can be spread silently, like meningitis. Covid is one of those illnesses that can affect people greatly, but more often than not doesn't.
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1 in 5 infections lead to long covid. Get it 5 times and statistically you will get long covid.

That’s not really ‘more often than not doesn’t’ is it?

Those other illnesses are nothing like covid in terms of frequency or contagiousness.

This kind of government encouraged minimisation is a massive part of the problem.
 
sherlock1969 said:
1 in 5 infections lead to long covid. Get it 5 times and statistically you will get long covid.

That’s not really ‘more often than not doesn’t’ is it?

Those other illnesses are nothing like covid in terms of frequency or contagiousness.

This kind of government encouraged minimisation is a massive part of the problem.
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Fair enough. Not entirely sure what can be done about the risks, though, without locking down again, which I don't think would be universally popular given that everyone has been vaccinated several times now and generally doesn't worry about covid as much (whether rightly or wrongly).
 
So what can we do? Those of us less enlightened on the subject may benefit from knowing. Surely the purpose of your thread?
 
atypical_boro said:
So what can we do? Those of us less enlightened on the subject may benefit from knowing. Surely the purpose of your thread?
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I've outlined it a dozen times on here before.

It is literally mental the approach people are taking to this.

Like hurtling towards a wall at 100mph and not hitting the brakes because 'what can we do' or 'we can't do anything until we hit the wall'.
 
sherlock1969 said:
I've outlined it a dozen times on here before.

It is literally mental the approach people are taking to this.

Like hurtling towards a wall at 100mph and not hitting the brakes because 'what can we do' or 'we can't do anything until we hit the wall'.
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I haven't read all those other threads, I don't always open covid related stuff. Sorry. I do recall you once mentioning ventilation I think, but even then not sure I fully understood it. Opening windows?
 
atypical_boro said:
I haven't read all those other threads, I don't always open covid related stuff. Sorry. I do recall you once mentioning ventilation I think, but even then not sure I fully understood it. Opening windows?
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Government communications on covid - or rather the lack of.....

Look at the kind of messaging that is going out in New Zealand: Clear, simple, concise, easily understood. Wouldn't be at all difficult for our government to do something similar but of course they do nothing, which will lead to increased illness and increased pressure on the NHS for years...
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sherlock1969 said:
fmttmboro.com

Government communications on covid - or rather the lack of.....

Look at the kind of messaging that is going out in New Zealand: Clear, simple, concise, easily understood. Wouldn't be at all difficult for our government to do something similar but of course they do nothing, which will lead to increased illness and increased pressure on the NHS for years...
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Ok. They'd all have an impact I'm sure but the risks would still exist. I'm certainly not opposing those measures though.
 
Yeah, there's loads that could be done without disrupting anyone's way of life (as set out in the thread linked).

Some of it actually, IMO, should be followed as just good, courteous, practice for dealing with any respiratory disease. Particularly in winter and particularly given the perilous state of NHS capacity.

I don't see why mask wearing in some indoor settings (particularly during winter) shouldn't be encouraged as it is in some other countries. Shops and public transport are obvious ones.

If you're sick and able to WFH, WFH FFS. Don't come into the office, via a bus or a train, coughing your guts up and spreading it all over the place.

Continue to encourage hand washing.

Plus obviously vaccines being more readily available, particularly for the vulnerable.

All seems like good common sense to me, but then that's why the right wing snowflakes don't like it. Heaven forbid someone wants you to wash your hands or wear a piece of fabric over your face for 20 mins.
 
festa5 said:
Yeah, there's loads that could be done without disrupting anyone's way of life (as set out in the thread linked).

Some of it actually, IMO, should be followed as just good, courteous, practice for dealing with any respiratory disease. Particularly in winter and particularly given the perilous state of NHS capacity.

I don't see why mask wearing in some indoor settings (particularly during winter) shouldn't be encouraged as it is in some other countries. Shops and public transport are obvious ones.

If you're sick and able to WFH, WFH FFS. Don't come into the office, via a bus or a train, coughing your guts up and spreading it all over the place.

Continue to encourage hand washing.

Plus obviously vaccines being more readily available, particularly for the vulnerable.

All seems like good common sense to me, but then that's why the right wing snowflakes don't like it. Heaven forbid someone wants you to wash your hands or wear a piece of fabric over your face for 20 mins.
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This is essentially the advice UKHSA are giving - recognise it's out there, take reasonable and sensible precautions, get vaccinated if/when you can, but don't let it rule your life .... bit like flu precautions
 
Malaguena said:
This is essentially the advice UKHSA are giving - recognise it's out there, take reasonable and sensible precautions, get vaccinated if/when you can, but don't let it rule your life .... bit like flu precautions
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Suppose the crux of the matter is then how effective are they being at getting that advice out there?

I'd say not very. Not their fault, it really needs government ministers to be getting that message out there. Or at least a lot of money throwing at a campaign (maybe there'll be one heading towards winter. You'd hope). But of ministers won't because they're scared of it hurting them politically.
 
Had it twice last year. First in April then again in November. Had onset Pneumonia the second time and now struggle to walk any great distance. Awaiting next bout of tests for COPD. Had all the jabs etc so god knows how bad I would have been without them.
 
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