Government communications on covid - or rather the lack of.....

[sherlock]

Look at the kind of messaging that is going out in New Zealand:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1670943608428539905

Clear, simple, concise, easily understood.

Wouldn't be at all difficult for our government to do something similar but of course they do nothing, which will lead to increased illness and increased pressure on the NHS for years to come.

 

[thewanderer]

Everyone is aware of all this. No idea what you expect people to do in any case?

 

[Way_Out_West]

What's the message? Does anything change with this 'guidance'?

 

[ThePrisoner]

I bet most people haven't a clue of the risks associated with re-infection. They will just think they will have another dose of covid.

 

[sherlock]

Burying heads in the sand like people are doing now will solve nothing. If you think the tax burden from the NHS is bad now, what will it be like in years to come? If there is a shortage of workers now, how will that be managed when many more people are off with chronic health conditions? Where will we get the doctors and nurses to manage all of these increasing numbers of people with covid related ill health?

This is a crisis in slow motion and people just say 'yeah but what can we do?'....

Unbelievable really.

 

[thewanderer]

Right, but what do you want people to do?

Also it's the middle of winter in NZ and a quick check of the UKHSA twitter feed has regular covid messaging. So not really sure what point you are making.

 

[sherlock]

Right, but what do you want people to do?

Also it's the middle of winter in NZ and a quick check of the UKHSA twitter feed has regular covid messaging. So not really sure what point you are making.

I've said on many threads what we need to do. Better messaging, better ventilation, hepa filters, better sick pay so people don't go to work with covid, better policies at school so kids aren't told to go when unwell, more widely available vaccines, use of testing, masks in high risk settings (eg cancer clinics), continued monitoring and publication of infections and deaths.

What do you think will be achieved by doing precisely nothing?

 

[thewanderer]

Literally everyone has now had covid at least once, apart from sick pay none of those things will make any difference. You need to find something else to obsess about.

 

[sherlock]

Literally everyone has now had covid at least once, apart from sick pay none of those things will make any difference. You need to find something else to obsess about.

Literally everyone hasn't. I haven't, my wife hasn't, lots of other people haven't.

This board is incredible at times. It is clear that we are heading towards a chronic illness catastrophe and people say shut up and find something else to obsess about.

The fact that many have had covid once is irrelevant, the risk of serious complications increases massively with every subsequent infection.

It's very indicative of the state of this country now that people who raise serious and relevant issues are dismissed, like not wanting the country to be affected by millions of people being chronically sick is somehow the attitude to be criticised.

 

[sherlock]

apart from sick pay none of those things will make any difference

I'd also like your evidence for this frankly ridiculous statement? Ventilation and hepa filtration are absolutely the two most vital things that could be done.

 

[ForssAwakens]

Everyone is aware of all this. No idea what you expect people to do in any case?

Everyone?

 

[atypical_boro]

I'm not disagreeing with your view but that is just a twitter feed, is the message being cascaded wider? I'd imagine that those most at risk (the elderly) aren't all on twitter.

 

[sherlock]

I'm not disagreeing with your view but that is just a twitter feed, is the message being cascaded wider? I'd imagine that those most at risk (the elderly) aren't all on twitter.

It's a good point and I'm not sure. My point, though, was how easy it would be for our government to put out something giving such clear information, yet they choose to do nothing.

 

[thewanderer]

Literally everyone hasn't. I haven't, my wife hasn't, lots of other people haven't.

This board is incredible at times. It is clear that we are heading towards a chronic illness catastrophe and people say shut up and find something else to obsess about.

The fact that many have had covid once is irrelevant, the risk of serious complications increases massively with every subsequent infection.

It's very indicative of the state of this country now that people who raise serious and relevant issues are dismissed, like not wanting the country to be affected by millions of people being chronically sick is somehow the attitude to be criticised.

Yes you have, check out the antibody studies almost the entire population has had it. You just didn't realise.

 

[sherlock]

Yes you have, check out the antibody studies almost the entire population has had it. You just didn't realise.

I absolutely haven’t had it. I know that 100%, you’re just talking nonsense now.

I’m CEV, I test at least weekly, I’ve had the blood tests for antibody levels which also test whether you’ve had covid. I haven’t. Neither has my wife.

The fact that you think you know my health better than I do just shows what a strange person you are.

 

[Luca1963]

I absolutely haven’t had it. I know that 100%, you’re just talking nonsense now.

I’m CEV, I test at least weekly, I’ve had the blood tests for antibody levels which also test whether you’ve had covid. I haven’t. Neither has my wife.

The fact that you think you know my health better than I do just shows what a strange person you are.

No need for that is there?

 

[sherlock]

No need for that is there?

New member. First post. Troll.

 

[Chutney]

"almost the entire population has had it"

"I haven’t. Neither has my wife."

Apart from sounding like an exchange from a Life of Brian reboot, those two statements are both perfectly capable of being correct. Calm down.

 

[sherlock]

"almost the entire population has had it"

"I haven’t. Neither has my wife."

Apart from sounding like an exchange from a Life of Brian reboot, those two statements are both perfectly capable of being correct. Calm down.

It’s also irrelevant. This isn’t really about whether someone has had it once, it’s about increasing risks from repeat infections.

 

[Boro_Interlinked]

Each infection is unlikely to be the same or old variants is it . I thought it was understood through the numbers coming from South Africa (autumn 21) with omicron before we got it that the virus had mutated in a way which meant lung infections or serious ones were getting more unlikley and the symptoms were much more fixed on a banging sore throat as well as the other less smaller symptoms . The omicron wave hit the UK from Nov21 and to be honest I haven't heard them name any further variant since then but I'm guessing it has mutated numerous times since and as the trend was going it might be just as infectious but actually far less likely to have the damaging affects of the first and second variants.