Costcappen
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Pak_Doo_Ik
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Red Bull involved in talks to agree their punishment, so that seems fair 
breakthewallsdown
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The fact that the title went down to the very last lap of the season, with what happened with the FIA, the only sensible punishment is to take the title off Max. We all know that won't happen to the FIA's poster boy though.
BoroFur
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Their submission was under the cap. They've tried to hide over $5m.
Chappy112
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You got a link to this?
BoroFur
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RB's submission was $4.5m under the cap but the FIA has made its assessment at $1.8m over.
So RB has effectively tried to hide $6.3m of expenditure.
That's fraud.
Red Bull and FIA edging towards Formula 1 cost cap conclusion at Mexico City GP
Red Bull and FIA have been in talks since team were accused of going over 2021s $145m cost cap on October 10; announcement on accepted breach agreement and punishment expected on Friday afternoon UK time; Red Bull set to be handed minor sporting penalty
SmallTown
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I'm not so sure: The 2023 car will already benefit from developments made over the cost cap. It's like telling Ben Johnson: Ok so you can keep your gold medal from Seoul, but you have to run in Barcelona with a stone in your shoe.
SmallTown
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Yeah that's the sad thing isn't it? He's super, super quick. and he's fearless and, as the last 8 races have shown, he's consistent. It's just a shame his first world championship was severely tainted and even his second has some of it's shine missing
Chappy112
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Oh yeah I already read that, that is quite a stretch but fair play to you for having a goRB's submission was $4.5m under the cap but the FIA has made its assessment at $1.8m over.
So RB has effectively tried to hide $6.3m of expenditure.
That's fraud.
Red Bull and FIA edging towards Formula 1 cost cap conclusion at Mexico City GP
Red Bull and FIA have been in talks since team were accused of going over 2021s $145m cost cap on October 10; announcement on accepted breach agreement and punishment expected on Friday afternoon UK time; Red Bull set to be handed minor sporting penaltywww.skysports.com
Pak_Doo_Ik
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FIA are not fit for purpose, the line coming out now is RB have accepted that they have breached the cap. So all that BS Horner spouted is now just brushed under the carpet.
The term "sport" is becoming more and more loosely applied to F1 which is a shame and all because of the actions of one team.
No doubt Sky Sports will really scrutinise Horner this weekend and make him feel uncomfortable with their questions
The term "sport" is becoming more and more loosely applied to F1 which is a shame and all because of the actions of one team.
No doubt Sky Sports will really scrutinise Horner this weekend and make him feel uncomfortable with their questions
ForssAwakens
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Honestly it seems you post to provoke these days. When you are being genuine and not provoking you are a good posters. Why single out zorro when starting a thread
Steer
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Horner has a brass neck and never feels uncomfortable, never seems to notice his own hypocrisy. He will probably say that the penalty was harsh on his poor little underdog team.No doubt Sky Sports will really scrutinise Horner this weekend and make him feel uncomfortable with their questions
BoroFur
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Every team knew what the rules were. The FIA even trialled the process for the 2020 season.Oh yeah I already read that, that is quite a stretch but fair play to you for having a go
Other than a couple of procedural breaches how is it that 9 teams managed to comply with the cost cap yet only Red Bull couldn't?
SmallTown
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I don’t: despite you trying to make this a “thing” the reason I singled out zorro is obvious: the graceless way he supports on driver and insult another and can’t even acknowledge all the cheating and manipulation that happened to make him a champion
SmallTown
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Yeah something about kids being bullied, lowly can sellers v big auto, some other lie.
I wonder if he’ll be retracting the veiled threats to sue Toto Wolff and Zac Brown now?
Chappy112
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Because they believe some of costs they didn’t include shouldn’t have been in the budget and they didn’t leave enough of a buffer with the $4m they left to keep them under. It doesn’t have to be fraud or financial doping, it can just be misinterpretation or disagreement about the rules.
I read one of the issues was spare parts, the FIA changed the rules this year so that unused spare parts are now included in the budget but then applied that to the 2021 budget. I can see why Red Bull would take issue with that.
Sport is going down a really weird path with social media where everyone is a cheat or corrupt, you see it with fans about refs and VAR every week and I’m starting to find it quite boring.
The FIA are useless there’s no doubt about it but this incessant whinging and going way over the top when it’s team you dislike is tedious to say the least.
ForssAwakens
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It’s deliberately provocative to bring a new post about current affairs and bring a poster into it