Conspiracy theorists

It's weird that Lee Harvey Oswald was claiming to be a 'patsy' after he got caught. You'd think a lone gunman nutter would want the fame and glory after their shooting. And it's also weird that Jack Ruby runs up to shoot LHO and then dies himself in prison. TBH I think it's odd that anyone looks at the whole Kennedy assassination and thinks to themselves that there 100% was definitely nothing going on there that we don't already know about. The whole situation is bizarre.

I get why there's a load of posts on this thread basically saying people buy in to conspiracy theories to make themselves feel special and like they're in some way superior to others, but I think it can work in the reverse as well. Some folk seem to immediately dismiss any of this stuff as a way to prove they're so smart they couldn't possibly be conned by a conspiracy theory like all the other shmucks.

Epstein killing himself in prison whilst on suicide watch and the camera suddenly malfunctioning is another one. Surely it's perfectly ordinary for people to hear that and think hmmm sounds a bit too coincidental.

The US soldiers going to get Bin Laden and then dropping him in the sea on the way back I always thought was a very weird story too.

Also I don't think you can just dismiss any conspiracies that get revealed and accepted as the mainstream as not being conspiracy theories. Like with the dodgy dossier one for the Iraq war. It won't have been Blair and Campbell's intention that the sexing up of the dossier be revealed to the public. If they could have kept that under wraps they would have done. And if they had been able to, and someone came on here saying the dossier was "sexed up" and full of falsehoods to get the country to go to war, others would be dismissing it as a wacky nutjob conspiracy imho.
 
It's weird that Lee Harvey Oswald was claiming to be a 'patsy' after he got caught. You'd think a lone gunman nutter would want the fame and glory after their shooting. And it's also weird that Jack Ruby runs up to shoot LHO and then dies himself in prison. TBH I think it's odd that anyone looks at the whole Kennedy assassination and thinks to themselves that there 100% was definitely nothing going on there that we don't already know about. The whole situation is bizarre.

I get why there's a load of posts on this thread basically saying people buy in to conspiracy theories to make themselves feel special and like they're in some way superior to others, but I think it can work in the reverse as well. Some folk seem to immediately dismiss any of this stuff as a way to prove they're so smart they couldn't possibly be conned by a conspiracy theory like all the other shmucks.

Epstein killing himself in prison whilst on suicide watch and the camera suddenly malfunctioning is another one. Surely it's perfectly ordinary for people to hear that and think hmmm sounds a bit too coincidental.

The US soldiers going to get Bin Laden and then dropping him in the sea on the way back I always thought was a very weird story too.

Also I don't think you can just dismiss any conspiracies that get revealed and accepted as the mainstream as not being conspiracy theories. Like with the dodgy dossier one for the Iraq war. It won't have been Blair and Campbell's intention that the sexing up of the dossier be revealed to the public. If they could have kept that under wraps they would have done. And if they had been able to, and someone came on here saying the dossier was "sexed up" and full of falsehoods to get the country to go to war, others would be dismissing it as a wacky nutjob conspiracy imho.
Epstein is in witness protection. Do people seriously think the relevant authorities in the USA would not do everything in their power to prevent a suicide considering the wealth of evidence and knowledge that man clearly has about the shady world of child trafficking?

Alas we will never know for sure if he is dead or not.
 
These may have been debunked or I may be misremembering or something, but wasn't there supposedly police training exercises going on at the WTC on 9/11 and at a bunch of tube stations for the 7/7 attacks. That's always sounded incredibly coincidental to me.
 
Does Hillsborough count as a conspiracy theory? Or at least the cover up effort afterwards? Police, government, media all involved in spreading untruthful statements about it - stuff like the idea Liverpool fans were pickpocketing the deceased, etc.

Same for Orgreave, the BBC have admitted now they edited the footage to make it look like the miners were the instigators of the violence but really it was the reverse. And yet with 100s of police officers there you'd say that was way too many people involved to maintain the lie.
 
These may have been debunked or I may be misremembering or something, but wasn't there supposedly police training exercises going on at the WTC on 9/11 and at a bunch of tube stations for the 7/7 attacks. That's always sounded incredibly coincidental to me.
 
Occam's razor. The simplest explanation is usually the right one or put more eloquently ................... by reducing the number of unsupported assumptions in an explanation, you reduce the likelihood of being wrong. One or two on here would do well to heed this.;)
 
Theories sometimes are often spoilt by simple truths.
Occam's razor. The simplest explanation is usually the right one or put more eloquently ................... by reducing the number of unsupported assumptions in an explanation, you reduce the likelihood of being wrong. One or two on here would do well to heed this.;)
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It's weird that Lee Harvey Oswald was claiming to be a 'patsy' after he got caught. You'd think a lone gunman nutter would want the fame and glory after their shooting. And it's also weird that Jack Ruby runs up to shoot LHO and then dies himself in prison. TBH I think it's odd that anyone looks at the whole Kennedy assassination and thinks to themselves that there 100% was definitely nothing going on there that we don't already know about. The whole situation is bizarre.

I get why there's a load of posts on this thread basically saying people buy in to conspiracy theories to make themselves feel special and like they're in some way superior to others, but I think it can work in the reverse as well. Some folk seem to immediately dismiss any of this stuff as a way to prove they're so smart they couldn't possibly be conned by a conspiracy theory like all the other shmucks.

Epstein killing himself in prison whilst on suicide watch and the camera suddenly malfunctioning is another one. Surely it's perfectly ordinary for people to hear that and think hmmm sounds a bit too coincidental.

The US soldiers going to get Bin Laden and then dropping him in the sea on the way back I always thought was a very weird story too.
It is right to have an enquiring mind. And not all "conspiracy theories" are founded in fantasy. The three you mention

Kennedy: there is so much about the incident that is "convenient" that I definitely believe that we do not know the full truth about what happened (and likely never will)

Epstein: again very "convenient" that a man who supposedly knew so much about so many would conveniently happen to commit suicide when the cameras malfunctioned whilst he was under "suicide watch"...

Bin Laden: I think dropping the body in the sea makes perfect sense. Keep him alive and you will have a succession of terrorist plots trying to force his release. Execute him and bury him and you make a shrine for "believers". Fish food seems a believable and logical course of action.

So, K and E dodgy, OBL truth.

Then we get to the real "loony tunes" stuff. 9/11 - it happened pretty much as we saw it. Same with 7/7. Apollo lunar missions, gospel truth, ask Buzz. The problem is that a lot of conspiracy theorists will simply believe all the conspiracy theories no matter how improbable they are. A suspicious person might conclude that this sort of muddying of the waters is deliberate to keep attention away from stories where we have been duped.
 
It is right to have an enquiring mind. And not all "conspiracy theories" are founded in fantasy. The three you mention

Kennedy: there is so much about the incident that is "convenient" that I definitely believe that we do not know the full truth about what happened (and likely never will)

Epstein: again very "convenient" that a man who supposedly knew so much about so many would conveniently happen to commit suicide when the cameras malfunctioned whilst he was under "suicide watch"...

Bin Laden: I think dropping the body in the sea makes perfect sense. Keep him alive and you will have a succession of terrorist plots trying to force his release. Execute him and bury him and you make a shrine for "believers". Fish food seems a believable and logical course of action.

So, K and E dodgy, OBL truth.

Then we get to the real "loony tunes" stuff. 9/11 - it happened pretty much as we saw it. Same with 7/7. Apollo lunar missions, gospel truth, ask Buzz. The problem is that a lot of conspiracy theorists will simply believe all the conspiracy theories no matter how improbable they are. A suspicious person might conclude that this sort of muddying of the waters is deliberate to keep attention away from stories where we have been duped.
World Trade Centre 7.

That's all. Again not been told the full story.
 
World Trade Centre 7.
I've read the report and the conspiracy theories do not hold up. Fanciful nonsense.

The most pertinent dismissal comes not from an Engineer or a Demolition Expert but from Stuart Vyse, a professor of psychology, "How many hundreds of people would you need to acquire the explosives, plant them in the buildings, arrange for the airplanes to crash [...] and, perhaps most implausibly of all, never breathe a single word of this conspiracy?

As Sherlock Holmes might have said, "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth "
 
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