Climate activist smashing windows

Every protest attracts trouble makers. It doesn't mean they belong to or understand the cause.
It does when they are illegally trespassing onto the railway infrastructure and constructions sites, which is what XR have planned this weekend. What do they expect to happen?
 
It does when they are illegally trespassing onto the railway infrastructure and constructions sites, which is what XR have planned this weekend. What do they expect to happen?
Yeah thats the problem with XR they aren't helping their cause.

Regarding railways and the tube specifically: people still need to travel to work and if its too far to walk or cycle then an electrified mass transit system is actually a good thing environmentally in comparison to getting the bus or, worst, a car.
 
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Photo-shopped?
Murdoch is against climate change legislation.
Marginalise protests - it demeans the argument and supports his agenda.

Ask the National Union of Mineworkers or the Hillsbrough Victims!
I doubt the sun also photoshopped the video that was on twitter
 
As this thread is clearly getting to the crux of the issue I thought I best join in.

What is worse for climate change Leather or Plastic? If she was wearing a hemp jacket and smashing stuff would we all be more on board with the message?
 
As this thread is clearly getting to the crux of the issue I thought I best join in.

What is worse for climate change Leather or Plastic? If she was wearing a hemp jacket and smashing stuff would we all be more on board with the message?
Plastic I would have said: use of petrochemicals to make and its resistance to degrading after use. It is more recyclable than leather I guess but that wouldn't offset the damage.

The point is: if you feel that strongly about a cause that you'll cause disturbance and criminal damage shouldn't you at least also do your own bit to help it?
 
Plastic I would have said: use of petrochemicals to make and its resistance to degrading after use. It is more recyclable than leather I guess but that wouldn't offset the damage.

The point is: if you feel that strongly about a cause that you'll cause disturbance and criminal damage shouldn't you at least also do your own bit to help it?

I'm a big fan of playing the ball rather than the player. In this instance she may have found the jacket and be recycling it/ could have been a gift- who knows. You do what you can, i'm hypocritical daily on climate change.

The message is important, the way they are approaching it perhaps not great for the cause in the short term.
 
I'm a big fan of playing the ball rather than the player. In this instance she may have found the jacket and be recycling it/ could have been a gift- who knows. You do what you can, i'm hypocritical daily on climate change.

The message is important, the way they are approaching it perhaps not great for the cause in the short term.
When is criminal damage acceptable?

Someone ultimately has to pay for that damage too, and the repair - which most probably involves two lads travelling around the M25 in a diesel van, via the warehouse to collect the new panes. Not to mention the materials they'll need like silica, plastic protective wrapping on the glass etc etc.

I get that its an important message, but these so called activists really do show themselves to be a bit stupid at times.
 
When is criminal damage acceptable?

Someone ultimately has to pay for that damage too, and the repair - which most probably involves two lads travelling around the M25 in a diesel van, via the warehouse to collect the new panes. Not to mention the materials they'll need like silica, plastic protective wrapping on the glass etc etc.

I get that its an important message, but these so called activists really do show themselves to be a bit stupid at times.

I think it's fair to say it is not acceptable. My point was more that the jacket you wear while smashing stuff it less important.
 
Imagine the police response would be very different if these thugs were smashing windows protesting lockdown measures or the murder of a woman by a bonkers copper.

And people still deny their is a two tier policing system in this country.
 
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