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10 points from a possible 54.
They`ve shot it🔫
If 40 points is the minimum for survival - they`ve to win at least 10 - almost half their remaining games.
Not a chance.

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r00fie1 said:
10 points from a possible 54.
They`ve shot it🔫
If 40 points is the minimum for survival - they`ve to win at least 10 - almost half their remaining games.
Not a chance.

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Relegation won't be 40 points. 35 might be the number, so they need 25 from 20 games. Six wins, seven draws, seven defeats might do it.
 
They can spend as much they like, but if you're an international with aspirations of playing in the World Cup, are you going to jeopardise a possible selection by going to a club that is staring the last chance saloon in the face? And if you did go, that could look to some people that you'd be nothing but a mercenary, who's only there for the money.

Newcastle United...the soap opera that keeps on giving. 🤣🤣
 
Newcastle are in a right battle now to avoid relegation. It's not impossible and after Man United they have some very winnable games. I reckon it'll go all the way to the final game. Norwich are gone, so it's between Newcastle, Watford, Leeds. Burnley and possibly Southampton.
 
Soutra said:
Relegation won't be 40 points. 35 might be the number, so they need 25 from 20 games. Six wins, seven draws, seven defeats might do it.
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"If 40 points is the minimum for survival" [ thats if and survival ]

Going on the law of averages.
Won one game in 18.
Not a chance of staying up.
Either way, its not looking like the promised land for them next season.....or the one after. :love:
 
As much as I don't want to see the mags do well it was a definate pen and probably the worst VAR decision ever.
 
I'd have been interested to hear what a qualified ref said about the Newcastle non-penalty? Arguing between me any my son. My take was that the Newcastle player ran into the keeper who was on the floor. Trying to be objective is hard and I know I'd be screaming till I was blue red in the face if that was us.

Now if the keeper was stopping the player getting to the ball it would be a penalty, if the keeper had initiated the contact it would be a penalty...
 
Teams who survived the drop at the end of the season with final points total: *

20/21 Burnley 39
19/20 Villa 35
18/19 Brighton 36
17/18 Southampton 36
16/17 Watford 40
15/16 Sunlun 39
14/15 Villa 38
13/14 West Brom 36
12/13 Sunlun 39
11/12 QPR 37
10/11 Wolves 40

* Aim for 40 points and clubs are virtually guaranteed survival.

Source: https://www.premierleague.com/tables?co=1&se=19&ha=-1
 
35 points has been enough the last 6 seasons. To get that they’ll need at least 6 wins from 20 games when they’ve only win 1 from 18 so far, plus 7 draws.

They need a new defence, a new imposing central midfielder plus cover up front - so 6 players minimum in January when it’s harder to buy players and who want to go there when they are 90% certain to go down?

Talk of Alli, Lingaard, Barkley, Coutinho is ridiculous when they haven’t got players capable of winning the ball at the back and keeping hold of it. Look at the first 2 goals today, Championship level defending at best.

God knows who they can bring in, maybe it’s case of buying for promotion the season after rather than staying up.

Utterly hilarious though.
 
Subbuteo_171 said:
35 points has been enough the last 6 seasons. To get that they’ll need at least 6 wins from 20 games when they’ve only win 1 from 18 so far, plus 7 draws.

They need a new defence, a new imposing central midfielder plus cover up front - so 6 players minimum in January when it’s harder to buy players and who want to go there when they are 90% certain to go down?

Talk of Alli, Lingaard, Barkley, Coutinho is ridiculous when they haven’t got players capable of winning the ball at the back and keeping hold of it. Look at the first 2 goals today, Championship level defending at best.

God knows who they can bring in, maybe it’s case of buying for promotion the season after rather than staying up.

Utterly hilarious though.
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There was talk of Trippier going there last week.
 
Subbuteo_171 said:
35 points has been enough the last 6 seasons. To get that they’ll need at least 6 wins from 20 games when they’ve only win 1 from 18 so far, plus 7 draws.

They need a new defence, a new imposing central midfielder plus cover up front - so 6 players minimum in January when it’s harder to buy players and who want to go there when they are 90% certain to go down?

Talk of Alli, Lingaard, Barkley, Coutinho is ridiculous when they haven’t got players capable of winning the ball at the back and keeping hold of it. Look at the first 2 goals today, Championship level defending at best.

God knows who they can bring in, maybe it’s case of buying for promotion the season after rather than staying up.

Utterly hilarious though.
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Evening.
If you see the figures from Premier League records above, the actual average for the last six seasons - for the clubs who finished one place above relegation is 37.5.
40 points appears to be the benchmark for clubs who dont usually get relegated from the Premiership. (y)
 
I simply don't see why Tripper / Lingard etc would go. Its almost a career wrecker if they go down.

Apparently Tripper is on 100k a week at Athletico but flying high and Europe. I get the mags are offering 150k yet its a world Cup year. Just such a backwards step.

I think they will genuinely struggle to get anyone in unless it's a loan.
 
r00fie1 said:
Evening.
If you see the figures from Premier League records above, the actual average for the last six seasons - for the clubs who finished one place above relegation is 37.5.
40 points appears to be the benchmark for clubs who dont usually get relegated from the Premiership. (y)
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Those figures are the points the 17th club achieved, not what was required to stay up - a subtle difference.

As an example, 18th place achieved 28 points last year meaning 29 points was needed. Burnley finished in 17th on 39.

The last club to go down with 40 or more points was West Ham nearly 20 years ago, the 40 points target is generally not required - just twice in 20 years.

Regardless, hard to see them getting either target. Which is hilarious.
 
Nero said:
Newcastle are in a right battle now to avoid relegation. It's not impossible and after Man United they have some very winnable games. I reckon it'll go all the way to the final game. Norwich are gone, so it's between Newcastle, Watford, Leeds. Burnley and possibly Southampton.
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the battle was over a long time ago
 
Red Faction can we have a banner when it becomes a mathematical certainty in January

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