I agree but that's a minimum target. With the squad we've got we should not be in the bottom three or anywhere near the relegation scrap. Personally I think top half is a good target. We're only 6 points off and we're bound to go on a decent run at some point. Woodgate somehow put four back to back wins together over Xmas and won manager of the month, so surely Carrick can do something similar. Playoffs for me just aren't attainable. Some might say top half is too far because we need to learn to walk before we run, but I think we can genuinely do it. But end of the day if he keeps us up, hopefully not just by the skin of our teeth, we can back him next summer and follow that up with a decent season.