All this is true, but plenty of people voted for it in good faith and have been let down. The current situation is untenable and the sooner we resolve to address that the better.
It sounds absolutely valid to me. Looks like you've been reading too much Daily Heil.
Fair enough. Bad choice of words. There is a material difference between Denmark and Sweden. But it gives more power to your main point, that the “must join the euro” argument is simplistic because there are at least two very different models by which member states haven’t, by negotiating an opt out, and by not quite getting round to it forever.
That’s hard to argue with.
That’s simplistic to the point of being racist. There was a majority in Wales for leaving, which can hardly have been English exceptionalism. The single ethnic group in these islands that was most strongly in favour of leaving was one of those in Northern Ireland, which would certainly not be considered English. And there was a non-trivial vote to leave in Scotland, which far exceeded any population there that might identify English.
Still fighting the wrong battle as well. The vote was whether to remain or leave. As with all separatist votes, the sole or primary objective of the separatist is to separate. You are wasting your time in arguing over percentages of GDP. You have to win the separatist/unionist argument. We lost, because we didn’t even fight it.
If other countries think there are English governments, then they need to learn some history. So far as I am aware, in the sense that 21st century definitions of England would apply, there hasn’t been an English government since 1542. Even allowing a generous definition there hasn’t been once since 1707. I would be disturbed if any of our politicians thought the Kingdom of Prussia or the Republic of Venice still existed (despite both of those persisting into the 19th century) and I will be equally disturbed if there are genuinely foreign politicians who are so uneducated as to think England still exists.
You wouldn't put it past this current lot of tories though would you? Rees-Mogg fans would actually cream themselves if he said it.
Yeah. I imagine, as a new member state, we'll have to take the Sweden option. Which is a shame because it means the brexiters can use that and the EU army argument in perpetuity. I can't see us getting an opt out if we rejoin but you never know
That was then. Most intelligent people and the majority of the country have seen brexit for the failure it is.You’ve just reminded me how utterly toxic remainers were for Labour at the last general election
And people wonder why Starmer repeatedly and regularly rules out rejoining
