Boro charged with breach of conduct

BoroMart said:
refs are aware of teams and players that are persistent cheating
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I think that is true in the PL, less so further down the pyramid. Last night on the telly sports fans could choose between Derby v Barnsley, Liverpool v Leipzig or PSG v Barca. Did many on here watch Derby? Do you seriously think a ref who has Derby or Barnsley at the weekend researched them, or watched a Euro game?
uncle_rico said:
He encourages his players to get fouled off the ball? How does he do that?
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Where does it say that in your quote? 🤷‍♂️
 
Yearbyred said:
The rugby example is interesting.

The performance of the Ref in the Wales v England game (even with video replay) was dreadful and he made 2 errors that resulted in 14 points that basically cost England the game.

At the end of the game the players and coach refused to blame the official because that’s how they do it in Rugby.

Football has never had the same code with regard to respect for refs and I doubt it ever will.
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Yeah I don't think it will. Although part of that is because the will to change it simply isn't there from the governing bodies. No money in it I suppose.....
 
So, the FA have got involved because the ref is part of their remit, funny how the EFL hide under their stone when they should be backing their clubs against abysmal refereeing.
 
Muttley said:
Do you mean NW? I'm not sure promotions from Div 2 on a semi regular basis puts you on the same level as SAF.

There are ways of protesting or complaining without aggressive confrontation which has achieved nothing other than negative press for Warnock and MFC
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I never mentioned SAF.

Do you suggest then next time a referee allows one of our players to be hospitalised without repercussions we send them a bunch of flowers and hope they feel better after their whopsie? A box of chocolates the next time a penalty gets awarded to the opposition without good cause or reason? What about some sort of stadium fanfare the next time a legitimate goal is disallowed?

Interesting how you see our team and manager being in the wrong over these incidents. I would be absolutely fascinated by your proposed approach for future infractions..
 
Refuse to answer the charges.
Refuse to attend any hearing.
Make a massive thing of it.
Embarrass them.
Pay any fine willingly.
Inform Referees association we will no longer accept him to referee any future fixtures
 
Rauko said:
I think this is more about NW suggesting that Coopers dad had .. influence ... to be fair, tongue in cheek or not, you can probably see why the FA would get prickly about such things and while he was right complaining about the ref you can probably understand the FAs reaction
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Yep, and on balance I think it was worth it 👍
 
Wilf said:
Surely you all saw this coming after what we all saw on our tellys ?

dont worry, Karen is onto it and will have the evidence to show the injustice that the football club felt (it is the football club thats charged and not Neil).

we will still get an hefty fine though and given a stern warning about our future behaviour.

it should come as no surprise - what-so-ever.
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And who cares?

Because we have nothing to lose the way we have been reffed this season.

I think the FA are a joke, the game is a shambles and they are presiding over it.
 
samizdat said:
They could try introducing some female refs. The best assistant in the EPL is a woman.
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the sad truth is most female officials have to prove themselves ten times over to make it in the game, while I don't think it is as simple as all female referees are better than male referees.. it would be a step in the right direction to promote more officials from under represented groups. It really is a weird one, for all of these kick racism out of sport, down with sexism, football against homophobia.. all the refs are pretty much and identikit of each other.

We have stuff like the Nike Academy for picking up lower league talent and guys who may have dropped off the radar at in the younger age groups. Why can't we have a big recruitment drive for referees.. ex players, semi-pros, released players. There should be some sort of pathway there implemented by the powers that be. I think with a few tweaks to VAR and better use of the 4th official we could massively improve on where we currently stand.

Get the reserve leagues up and running again.. kill two birds with one stone. Perfect training ground for the new batch of competent referees. It's not even funny any more, it used to feel very much like part of the game, but we're slipping into sheer incompetence now and there's no excuse for it. The incident with Fry could have genuinely have cost him his sight, his career and even his life. It's not an isolated incident, the game as a whole is suffering in this country and someone needs to get a grip of it.
 
Can't see how anyone could watch that Swansea match and then blame Warnock for reacting.

We were robbed of points by refereeing incompetence and lost a player for the season without any punishment because of refereeing incompetence.

Referees should be held to account when they make mistakes instead of brushing it under the rug.

We never hear of any action being taken against referees for poor performances.
Lee Mason had an absolute horror show against Brighton, and he was then "injured" for two rounds of fixtures rather than the officials admitting he made a mistake.
 
NoloBoro said:
I wish we would stop comparing football to rugby and using examples of how well behaved players are.
has anyone ever thought that rugby doesn’t arouse the same passions as football because it’s dull as fukk??
As for the fine, stick in a counter claim for Dijksteels injury under something like ‘failing to adequately protect players from cheating Welsh cuntz’ ??
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The standard of refereeing is far superior to that in football. You're not gonna see sweetchuck from police academy refing a rugby game getting decision after decision blatantly wrong.

When did rugby introduce video refs in comparison to football?


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"In rugby the use of television and the TV ref/video ref/television match official started in Pretoria in 1995 in the Blue Bulls’ Carlton League Final in 1995. The referee was Tappe Henning, the TMO Louis Wessels. At the beginning of 1996 it was used at the Toyota Club Championship in Durban with Johan Gouws to drive it.

It was not an entirely new idea. The NFL first experimented with “instant replay” in 1976 and owes much to Art McNally who was in charge of the NFL’s match officials at the time. In 1978 the first tentative steps were taken into so many teething problems that it was shelved, coming to life again in 1985 when it was tested in eight preseason matches and the next year started on its developing career."

the Premier League clubs voted unanimously to introduce VAR in season 2019/20

TWENTY THREE YEARS LATER!!

I would argue that TMO/VAR should have been introduced along with the formation of the premier league. 1992–93 onwards.
 
Lefty said:
Plead guilty, cite mitigation.
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I think Gibson is more likely to lawyer up. All the players tweeting about it after the match, the Dijksteel announcement etc. He's going to go for them I think. Whoever the equivalent of George Carmen will be on our side. I suspect Gibson is up for a fight.
 
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