newyddion
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He should have moved from Spurs years ago..
Bayern bid for Kane
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newyddion
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C'mon.. he clearly does. He didn't have the chance to sign for Man Utd and he knows he was good enough.Good point
I've also not heard Shearer say he regretted the decision even with the benefit of hindsight. If those are a man's priorities, who's to tell him different?
Colgates_shaving_foam
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He's got nothing to gain from upsetting the whole 'geordie nation' has he? He knows better than most how thin skinned and prickly they are to any perceived sleight.Good point
I've also not heard Shearer say he regretted the decision even with the benefit of hindsight. If those are a man's priorities, who's to tell him different?
Diego
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Why do you not believe it?
Marvanelli
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Craggsy2
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I think they put out the feelers before the end of last season but Levy said there is no way he will allow him to go there.
jonny_greenings_sock
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Levy’s asking £100m? For a guy who’s out of contract next season?
He’s off his head. Possibly the worst chairman in football, not including that clown at Chelsea.
He’s off his head. Possibly the worst chairman in football, not including that clown at Chelsea.
atypical_boro
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Didn’t he meet both Keegan and Fergie at David Platt’s mum’s house on the same day in Cheshire, Fergie asked if he was going first or second, Shearer said “second”, Fergie replied “I’ve got no chance then”.
Or am I getting the story muddled up with someone else?
newyddion
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I thought Jack Walker wasn’t having any of it
atypical_boro
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That’s not the story Shearer tells. But who knows.
I can’t remember how David Platt got involved, or his mum. I guess it was the summer of Euro 96 so they knew each other etc.
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Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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I disagree. He says he has no regrets and I believe him. He would not have won those 12 trophies at United through any sporting endeavour. He would have won them by signing a piece of paper. Where's the worth in that.
Doom_On_Horseback
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Went to watch Bayern a couple of times this season. I think it’s easy to forget what a good side they are. Yes they got put to bed by city but will want to bounce back and these are the sort of signing which will enable them to do so.
Bayern are a massive club and a HUGE catchment area. Will always do well. They only just won the league last year but have since dispensed of Oli Kahn and Hasan Salihamovic.
Tuchel has a wonderful squad at his disposal and I’m sure they’ll add 3-4 in this window.
Kane will be adored and will score a boatload. The Bundesliga is quite a competitive league with some good teams. Albeit you could stick a good few quid on Bayern winning it next year and not get much back.
Bayern are a massive club and a HUGE catchment area. Will always do well. They only just won the league last year but have since dispensed of Oli Kahn and Hasan Salihamovic.
Tuchel has a wonderful squad at his disposal and I’m sure they’ll add 3-4 in this window.
Kane will be adored and will score a boatload. The Bundesliga is quite a competitive league with some good teams. Albeit you could stick a good few quid on Bayern winning it next year and not get much back.
Brian Marwood
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You watched that in Coronation Street. His mum is called Gail.
jonny_greenings_sock
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Bundesliga’s a top league but I also get the impression that it seems to be a place where older players can thrive, seems to add a few years to your shelf life.
Robben, Ribery, Lewangoalski all did amazing at Bayern well into their mid 30s.
Or maybe it’s just coincidence and athletes just have longer shelf lives now because of sports science advances. It’s mad - and unprecedented - to see so many athletes close to their 40s dominating their sports. Djokovic-Federer-Nadal, Hamilton, LeBron, Tom Brady, Modric, Ronaldo, Thiago Silva, there’s loads.
Robben, Ribery, Lewangoalski all did amazing at Bayern well into their mid 30s.
Or maybe it’s just coincidence and athletes just have longer shelf lives now because of sports science advances. It’s mad - and unprecedented - to see so many athletes close to their 40s dominating their sports. Djokovic-Federer-Nadal, Hamilton, LeBron, Tom Brady, Modric, Ronaldo, Thiago Silva, there’s loads.
Nero
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I just can't see Kane leaving England being so close to breaking the Premier League goalscoring record. He's England's top scorer (and will remain so for a very long time), so the Premier League record is definitely on his mind.
The only team I can see him leaving for would be Real Madrid. Although turning down Bayern Munich would be mad in my opinion too.
The only team I can see him leaving for would be Real Madrid. Although turning down Bayern Munich would be mad in my opinion too.
Alzi
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Kane shafted himself there in fairness. Who would trust Levy?!
atypical_boro
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SHEARER'S VIEW:
"How do your judge your professional existence? Is it the money you earn or the satisfaction you derive from doing your job well? It is about your family being happy, being home in time to tuck your kids in at night? Is it about giving yourself to an organisation which is striving for better? Is it about not having much of a choice, actually, and just getting on with it? Is it one of the above or fragments of everything? What drives you?
Now hold that thought and then put yourself in the boots of a footballer, whose career may stretch to five or 10 years, maybe a little more if you’re really good or lucky.
I’ve been in those boots and made some big decisions but even now I can’t tell you they were the right decisions. What I can tell you is they were mine and I regret none of them, that I stand by all of it. There were moments when decisions weren’t there to be taken, because I was under contract or injured or somebody else held more power to say no than I did to say yes.
For the life of me, I can’t put myself in Harry Kane’s boots. We know he’s the finest English centre-forward of his generation, a record-breaker for club and country and a guarantee of goals. We know big clubs have wanted to sign him in the past and that Bayern Munich and others would love to sign him now. We know Tottenham Hotspur don’t want to sell him. We know Harry wants to win things because he’s said as much.
If I force myself to transplant his experience into me, I think — but only think — I’d have to go out and try to win something, but it’s difficult for me to hold onto that. At his age, I had endured two serious injuries and was retiring from England duty to prolong my playing days with Newcastle United.
And here my sense of knowing stops. I’m not embarrassed about writing that. A couple of years ago, when Manchester City were sniffing, I thought it might be make or break in terms of Harry moving or staying at Spurs, but he’s on the back of a fantastic individual season with a bang-average side, and rightly remains in demand. What I would never do is attempt to tell him what he should do. I would have hated ex-pros spouting off about my situation and, in any case, everybody is different.
My first thought when hearing about Bayern’s bid for Harry shot in the direction of James Maddison, who has been the subject of negotiations between Spurs and Leicester City, his present club. If I was Maddison, once I’d got personal terms out of the way, the first thing I’d be asking of Tottenham is assurances that Kane isn’t leaving. Imagine how ***ed off you’d be if you’d pictured yourself creating chances for one of the world’s best finishers and then, bang — he’s gone.
My second thought was an old joke. If Harry wants to join Bayern, I’ll drive his F***ing car there myself; anything to protect my Premier League goalscoring record of 260 — Harry is on 213. In truth, any hope there is probably forlorn. Harry is nearly 30, but he looks after himself, he’s steered clear of major injuries and he’s perfectly capable of coming back to England in a couple of years’ time and banging in enough goals to overtake me. Still, though. Give me the keys and a sat nav and off I’ll go…
What I can do is explain how transfers tend to work (or don’t work) and interpret how this one looks and feels. What’s interesting is that the decision-making power comes with checks and balances and is spread a bit more evenly this time.
The obvious thing, to me anyway, is that big clubs don’t make moves without doing their research and due diligence. Bayern wouldn’t have made their offer if there was any suggestion Harry or the team behind him were not receptive to it, theoretically at least. They wouldn’t waste their time.
Daniel Levy, the Tottenham chairman, has a reputation in the game as a tough negotiator but this summer represents a crossroads. Tying Harry down to a six-year contract in 2018 was a genius piece of business because it gave the club huge protection when City and others came calling, but it presents them with a dilemma now. They could sell him for a decent fee or hold their nerve, gamble on him agreeing new terms and risk him leaving for nothing in a year.
Levy is not somebody I know personally, but I would be surprised if he was willing to let Harry join another Premier League club, unless it was for ridiculous money (these things are relative) and it would kill him to let him go for nothing, particularly when a replacement would likely cost a fortune and inevitably be inferior. Even the biggest clubs have to sell at some point, whether to reinvest or refresh, but gauging the right moment is fraught. And without Kane, Spurs are toothless.
History shows us that Harry is not the type to kick up a fuss or refuse to come into training, so that gamble is mitigated by the player’s professionalism, but a gamble it remains.
But there is risk involved for Harry, too. Yes, he could opt to see out his contract, but what if he sustains a serious injury that keeps him out for six or seven months?
If he stays fit, would high-calibre clubs still be waiting for him? In principle, of course, because he’s so good and would command a huge salary as a free agent, but Bayern need a forward now. So do Manchester United, who have been lusting after Harry for a while. So do Real Madrid. They can’t all afford to hang fire and go into next season without a striker.
Does Harry need more money? Is he motivated by it? I’m pretty confident in saying no, except that a move like that could feasibly mean generational wealth for his family.
And then there is Spurs. Winning a big trophy has “got to be the next celebration. That’s got to be the next step,” Harry insisted when the club waved goodbye to White Hart Lane, but they look as far away as ever from saying hello to that kind of success. They have been left behind by the others. What’s their best hope for next season? The Carabao Cup? Maybe, at a push.
I moved home to Newcastle for a world-record fee in 1996 and then stayed home until I retired a decade later. My aim — and the club’s ambition — was to win trophies and we did our best, but that itch had been scratched when Blackburn Rovers won the Premier League a year earlier. Harry has never left home, his formative loan spells apart, but there is nothing wrong with that. There’s nothing unambitious about loving where you are, your club, your family and being ****-hot at what you do and feeling settled.
It comes back to the question I asked at the start. How do you judge yourself? If Bayern Munich or Real Madrid come in for you, it’s difficult to ignore. You’d have to be interested. Move to Germany and I have no doubt Harry would win the Bundesliga and he’d have a really good chance of lifting the Champions League, too. Stay at Spurs and he’s worshipped, more than he is already.
Sometimes it’s easier not to make decisions, to let life ride, but at some stage Harry or Spurs or a combination must insist or back down or compromise. At some stage, between now and next summer, we will discover exactly how Harry judges himself and his professional existence. It won’t be wrong, it won’t be right. It’ll just be him."
"How do your judge your professional existence? Is it the money you earn or the satisfaction you derive from doing your job well? It is about your family being happy, being home in time to tuck your kids in at night? Is it about giving yourself to an organisation which is striving for better? Is it about not having much of a choice, actually, and just getting on with it? Is it one of the above or fragments of everything? What drives you?
Now hold that thought and then put yourself in the boots of a footballer, whose career may stretch to five or 10 years, maybe a little more if you’re really good or lucky.
I’ve been in those boots and made some big decisions but even now I can’t tell you they were the right decisions. What I can tell you is they were mine and I regret none of them, that I stand by all of it. There were moments when decisions weren’t there to be taken, because I was under contract or injured or somebody else held more power to say no than I did to say yes.
For the life of me, I can’t put myself in Harry Kane’s boots. We know he’s the finest English centre-forward of his generation, a record-breaker for club and country and a guarantee of goals. We know big clubs have wanted to sign him in the past and that Bayern Munich and others would love to sign him now. We know Tottenham Hotspur don’t want to sell him. We know Harry wants to win things because he’s said as much.
If I force myself to transplant his experience into me, I think — but only think — I’d have to go out and try to win something, but it’s difficult for me to hold onto that. At his age, I had endured two serious injuries and was retiring from England duty to prolong my playing days with Newcastle United.
And here my sense of knowing stops. I’m not embarrassed about writing that. A couple of years ago, when Manchester City were sniffing, I thought it might be make or break in terms of Harry moving or staying at Spurs, but he’s on the back of a fantastic individual season with a bang-average side, and rightly remains in demand. What I would never do is attempt to tell him what he should do. I would have hated ex-pros spouting off about my situation and, in any case, everybody is different.
My first thought when hearing about Bayern’s bid for Harry shot in the direction of James Maddison, who has been the subject of negotiations between Spurs and Leicester City, his present club. If I was Maddison, once I’d got personal terms out of the way, the first thing I’d be asking of Tottenham is assurances that Kane isn’t leaving. Imagine how ***ed off you’d be if you’d pictured yourself creating chances for one of the world’s best finishers and then, bang — he’s gone.
My second thought was an old joke. If Harry wants to join Bayern, I’ll drive his F***ing car there myself; anything to protect my Premier League goalscoring record of 260 — Harry is on 213. In truth, any hope there is probably forlorn. Harry is nearly 30, but he looks after himself, he’s steered clear of major injuries and he’s perfectly capable of coming back to England in a couple of years’ time and banging in enough goals to overtake me. Still, though. Give me the keys and a sat nav and off I’ll go…
What I can do is explain how transfers tend to work (or don’t work) and interpret how this one looks and feels. What’s interesting is that the decision-making power comes with checks and balances and is spread a bit more evenly this time.
The obvious thing, to me anyway, is that big clubs don’t make moves without doing their research and due diligence. Bayern wouldn’t have made their offer if there was any suggestion Harry or the team behind him were not receptive to it, theoretically at least. They wouldn’t waste their time.
Daniel Levy, the Tottenham chairman, has a reputation in the game as a tough negotiator but this summer represents a crossroads. Tying Harry down to a six-year contract in 2018 was a genius piece of business because it gave the club huge protection when City and others came calling, but it presents them with a dilemma now. They could sell him for a decent fee or hold their nerve, gamble on him agreeing new terms and risk him leaving for nothing in a year.
Levy is not somebody I know personally, but I would be surprised if he was willing to let Harry join another Premier League club, unless it was for ridiculous money (these things are relative) and it would kill him to let him go for nothing, particularly when a replacement would likely cost a fortune and inevitably be inferior. Even the biggest clubs have to sell at some point, whether to reinvest or refresh, but gauging the right moment is fraught. And without Kane, Spurs are toothless.
History shows us that Harry is not the type to kick up a fuss or refuse to come into training, so that gamble is mitigated by the player’s professionalism, but a gamble it remains.
But there is risk involved for Harry, too. Yes, he could opt to see out his contract, but what if he sustains a serious injury that keeps him out for six or seven months?
If he stays fit, would high-calibre clubs still be waiting for him? In principle, of course, because he’s so good and would command a huge salary as a free agent, but Bayern need a forward now. So do Manchester United, who have been lusting after Harry for a while. So do Real Madrid. They can’t all afford to hang fire and go into next season without a striker.
Does Harry need more money? Is he motivated by it? I’m pretty confident in saying no, except that a move like that could feasibly mean generational wealth for his family.
And then there is Spurs. Winning a big trophy has “got to be the next celebration. That’s got to be the next step,” Harry insisted when the club waved goodbye to White Hart Lane, but they look as far away as ever from saying hello to that kind of success. They have been left behind by the others. What’s their best hope for next season? The Carabao Cup? Maybe, at a push.
I moved home to Newcastle for a world-record fee in 1996 and then stayed home until I retired a decade later. My aim — and the club’s ambition — was to win trophies and we did our best, but that itch had been scratched when Blackburn Rovers won the Premier League a year earlier. Harry has never left home, his formative loan spells apart, but there is nothing wrong with that. There’s nothing unambitious about loving where you are, your club, your family and being ****-hot at what you do and feeling settled.
It comes back to the question I asked at the start. How do you judge yourself? If Bayern Munich or Real Madrid come in for you, it’s difficult to ignore. You’d have to be interested. Move to Germany and I have no doubt Harry would win the Bundesliga and he’d have a really good chance of lifting the Champions League, too. Stay at Spurs and he’s worshipped, more than he is already.
Sometimes it’s easier not to make decisions, to let life ride, but at some stage Harry or Spurs or a combination must insist or back down or compromise. At some stage, between now and next summer, we will discover exactly how Harry judges himself and his professional existence. It won’t be wrong, it won’t be right. It’ll just be him."
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