Barca the end of an era

I don't begrudge him of it, no way. He deserves/ is worth it, he's self-made, and the best at something which the most people try and do (his competition is massive), and when they (his competition) fail they pay to watch him do it.

Factor in half of his wages have probably gone on tax, tax on shirt sales and tax on tickets etc, he's probably helped fund and subsidise more poor people lives than over 99.999999% of people on the planet. If people were not buying tickets, paying for sky TV etc, they wouldn't be paying it as tax to fund the poor. The money could be better distributed between the club though.
Nobody anywhere is 'worth' that kind of money for doing anything.
Its basically obscene.
 
Frenkie De Jong is a fantastic player. Bizarre to ask what has he done. He shone in Ajax's run to the semis of the CL a couple of seasons ago. He's only 21 too. Not sure what is expected of him!
I don’t think he means they shouldn’t of signed him, he means his pay packet is too large based on one good season, he should of been on a much smaller basic with a lot of add ons. He hasn’t done a great deal at Barca since he arrived.
 
this could be a problem:

1. Frenkie de Jong £354,000 a week
2. Antoine Griezmann £345,000 a week
3. Sergio Busquets £258,000 a week
4= Sergio Aguero £230,000 a week
5= Memphis Depay £230,000 a week
6= Gerard Pique £210,000 a week
7= Ousmane Dembélé £210,000 a week
8= Miralem Pjanic £210,000 a week
9. Samuel Umtiti £208,000 a week
10. Sergi Roberto £170,000 a week
Countinhos on €20mill euros a season apparently
 
The problem Barca had is that they had such a good team for such a long period of time with such an iconic manager that they all pretty much retired or declined at the same time. There was no real evolution.

as with 4/5 years the likes of Xavi iniesta puyol now messi and even pique ( form and fitness wise) we’re gone or reduced in ability.

so they literally fell off a cliff.
 
Make the players pay the agents. The players' agents are representing them not the clubs.
They sort of do, as the agent agrees the cut he gets with the player, and they both effectively end up billing the club. So if a club has say a budget of 10m, one player might get 7m in wages and 3m to the agent and another might get 9m and 1m to the agent. If the club only has 8m, then what the player and what the agent get probably come down proportionately, unless the agent has a fixed fee.

I bet the players would love to not have to have their money diverted to agents, but the problem is, now that everyone has an agent, the agents have all the contacts and end up stronger at negotiating etc. It's like a self-feeding cycle, and agents fees will just go up and up, the bigger agents get bigger, and the smaller agents get smaller until it all gets capped externally. The latter likely won't happen though, as it would need the players to drive it, against the agents they're contracted with.
 
Nobody anywhere is 'worth' that kind of money for doing anything.
Its basically obscene.
The players don't dictate their "worth", this is dictated by what the public are willing to pay for Sky TV, match tickets etc, you're part of dictating their worth.
It's also dictated by how much owners are willing to blow their own wealth (or the clubs wealth) on their vanity train set. Whilst those figures are high, the players "worth" will be high, as they are the ultimate asset. There's only one Messi, and a billion people want to be or watch Messi, his wages are peanuts compared to his attraction/ demand.
 
The players don't dictate their "worth", this is dictated by what the public are willing to pay for Sky TV, match tickets etc, you're part of dictating their worth.
It's also dictated by how much owners are willing to blow their own wealth (or the clubs wealth) on their vanity train set. Whilst those figures are high, the players "worth" will be high, as they are the ultimate asset. There's only one Messi, and a billion people want to be or watch Messi, his wages are peanuts compared to his attraction/ demand.
See above. Nobody is worth that kind of money no matter what they do.
 
I've never thought that lower wages would mean lower prices for fans though.

Particularly at the top level, owners are looking for profit rather than glory. Reduced wages would mean profits for the investors.

On the whole, I'm happier with the players getting it.
 
See above. Nobody is worth that kind of money no matter what they do.
See the post you quoted, where you didn't counter any of the points.

He is worth it, as he gets paid it, and he's the best at a trade that has the most competition of any trade in the world, and probably the best that there has ever been. He won't be worth it in a few years, so he won't get paid it in a few years and his 20-year career will be done.

You might not think he's worth it, which is fine, but you're not paying his wages, his club is, and their fans/ owner pays for that. But you are subsidising it and funding the pyramid which he sits at the top of, by paying for tickets for other clubs and sky etc. It's all linked, where there's massive demand, there's massive wages to reflect it, he's the top of the biggest pyramid. If everyone could do it, the wages would be far lower, supply and demand.

It's like Ronaldo, they've already made the money back for his fee and wages, and we have dictated his price.

If you don't think they're worth it, don't buy tickets and sky tv etc?
 
See the post you quoted, where you didn't counter any of the points.

He is worth it, as he gets paid it, and he's the best at a trade that has the most competition of any trade in the world, and probably the best that there has ever been. He won't be worth it in a few years, so he won't get paid it in a few years and his 20-year career will be done.

You might not think he's worth it, which is fine, but you're not paying his wages, his club is, and their fans/ owner pays for that. But you are subsidising it and funding the pyramid which he sits at the top of, by paying for tickets for other clubs and sky etc. It's all linked, where there's massive demand, there's massive wages to reflect it, he's the top of the biggest pyramid. If everyone could do it, the wages would be far lower, supply and demand.

It's like Ronaldo, they've already made the money back for his fee and wages, and we have dictated his price.

If you don't think they're worth it, don't buy tickets and sky tv etc?
I don't care if its the worlds top doctor. Jeff Bezos. Richard Branson. Ronaldo. Whoever and everybody. For the 3rd time. NOBODY IS WORTH THAT KIND OF MONEY.
 
Don't care if he generates 1000 times more income. Why does he need half a billion euros over 4 years? Why does anybody?
 
I’m suppose you need to consider a footballer as a ‘Business’ rather than an employee warning a wage to be able to start justifying high earnings
 
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