Bad day to be a Tory

SmallTown said:
So. Tory sleaze again. Are we just so accustomed to it we ignore it now? Or have the rather dodgy Tory deflectors on this thread done their job? You've got to wonder the morals of someone who'll deflect from extreme sleaze
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Well you should make a stand and resign. And put all those accusations in your resignation speech
 
SmallTown said:
So. Tory sleaze again. Are we just so accustomed to it we ignore it now? Or have the rather dodgy Tory deflectors on this thread done their job? You've got to wonder the morals of someone who'll deflect from extreme sleaze
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I guess there wasn't there any Tory sleaze pre December 2019 ? Was that why you voted Conservative 18 months ago in the General Election?
 
NZBoro1 said:
Terrible people, especially the first 3, but do we now castigate the employer for their employees illegal activities, as bad as they may be?

Yes, its a tax receiving entity, so in that case then if any Govt minister, or member of the ruling party is found to have undertaken illegal activities then the Govt or party should have to go through the same reviews as is currently being suggested for the BBC. And so on and so on for any other Govt department or entity that receives funding through taxpayers?
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yes but the employer knew about it all. Big point. In Bashirs case Lord HAll even re-employed him.
And dont even think about Saville

Theres a few more for that list but ..
 
SmallTown said:
Credit where this due though. @Ricard19 , @HundredRoom and @Nobby_Barnes have managed to deflect the thread away from the Tory sleaze that it was highlighting. They have done the work of "Boris"

You've get to start questioning the moral compass of people who will deflect form the wrongdoings of "their" people rather than acknowledge them. Proper wrong uns doing that sort of thing. What sort of person do you have to be to deflect and defend these people? You've got to question their moral fibre. Something not right about them
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that's what they do try to get you arguing talking about or debating about something else "nothing to see here but what about this"

The BBC is very much to the left with their programming, comedy & documentaries their news & politics reporting however is so far right if geobbels were alive today he would look at the BBC with envy that the British government has such a successful propaganda outfit it would made his attempts look rank amateur.

As for the racism this only makes him more popular it appeals to his core voters bet his popularity goes up in the polls over the next few weeks.

That Boris fella he's gonna kick em all out in he.

Bozo Racist nah
 
HundredRoom said:
yes but the employer knew about it all. Big point. In Bashirs case Lord HAll even re-employed him.
And dont even think about Saville

Theres a few more for that list but ..
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And has now resigned his posts. There may well be a few more for that list, the BBC is a large corporation and employs a lot of people; those people are also employed by other media areas, who may also know about there illegal activities.

Playing devils advocate; if a well known person works for the BBC and also works for other media outlets (writes a column in a paper, presents or directs/produces programmes for other media channels) and is then found to be guilty of crimes or dishonest activities, should it only be the BBC that is investigated and ask to review its practices. Should we assume that the others didn't know, or because they are privately owned businesses that they do not need to be reviewed?

Edit: Juan-Sheet is correct; the conversation has veered away from the original thread and could do with one on its own.
 
HundredRoom said:
yes but the employer knew about it all. Big point. In Bashirs case Lord HAll even re-employed him.
And dont even think about Saville

Theres a few more for that list but ..
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So did the PM of the day remind me again which party gave Saville a knighthood & covered for kiddy fiddlers because they didn't want to bring down the establishment?

one of the main reasons why I detest these people they thought toffs, celebrities & MP's should be protected instead of the poor children they abused & left traumatised for the rest of their lives what was Bozo's words again he saw the investigation as "spaffing money up the wall"

Every prime minister since that nasty evil witch with has protected these filthy wastes of good air.
Its more & more sleaze upon sleaze but yet people still defend them
 
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HundredRoom said:
Yes so that makes it alright does it ?. Perhaps there will be an inquiry and find out 25 years later people were guilty.
After they are dead. Like all the other inquiries
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No, it doesn't make it alright at all. But he has resigned his posts, I don't see what else he can do as he can't turn the clock back. What would you have him do?

I think the inquiry will happen before 25 years time, looks like with the current Govt it is the reason they were looking for to have a full scale review of the BBC and its funding line.

Be careful what you wish for; the BBC makes some amazing programmes, sold the world over, making money for itself and the Govt. If it went privately owned, this money would stay in private hands, or the programmes just would not be made as they are not seen as audience getters. It would be a shame to see that happen.

Anyway, my final thoughts on this particular line regarding the BBC, as we have veered away from the topic of the thread.
 
Why is it that the Party who has more ethnic people in their Cabinet is racist ?
Why is it that the Party which has vaccinated more people as a percentage than any other is inept ?
Why is it that the Party which has supported more wages than any other in the World is anti worker ?
Why is it that the Party which is the above is succeeding in obtaining more votes than any other ?
 
Ricard19 said:
To actually believe the BBC are biased towards the Tories you must be incredibly deluded or have a persecution complex.
The fact that the NEW director general is a Tory may even their bias up.
The majority of the media are left leaning. Thankfully the majority can see through this and were not swayed in both Brexit and the general election
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You’re actually so far wrong in terms of mass media bias that it’s embarrassing, mass media reflects society so if the majority is right leaning then for a business that’s reliant on popularity to survive it will follow that model, you may have one or two outliers but big business in general and which is what mass media is will almost invariably look to the majority market or in the instance of Brexit the position which best suits themselves.
 
HundredRoom said:
But why do the BBC appoint themselves as the worlds self righteous source of news. Maybe that had some holding in the days of empire.
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They don’t the rest of the world appoints them as unbiased and free from influence in its reportage, their reputation is based on years of coverage and how that’s perceived world wide, the BBC has both left and right wing bias on different things at different times, the position of the individual interprets that bias to suit, people who have no dog in the fight tend to see it for what it is and appreciate the balance it offers.
 
I think you might find Mary that harking back to Brexit is a dead duck. It's happened . Get over it and move on.
Unless you want to resurrect the Suez Crisis and blame the current Government !
 
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