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Tom17
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Weegord I agree with part of what you say, but the complicit in killing is absolutely bonkers
And what other measures?As already outlined earlier, we should have had a lockdown far sooner based in the evidence from other countries. Businesses should have shut up shop sooner. Instead, he waffles, dithered and didn't really make any decisions becuase he didn't want to risk alienating the business community.
Was wondering when you were going to resort to that. I never expected an apology but the apology was not for me. It was for the millions of people you a accused of complicity.
Still - come the revolution eh bro ?
And what other measures?
Wages?
Food supply?
Utility supply?
Singapore hasn't locked down for example and they seem to have things under control?
Nothing to do with party politics ?. Well you have finally given me a chuckle and for that I salute youWhat on earth are you banging on about? This has nothing to do with party politics, the management of the crisis has been completely focused on keeping the wrong people onside.
What do you find so difficult to understand about that?
Nothing to do with party politics ?. Well you have finally given me a chuckle and for that I salute you
Block away. It will be positive to criticise for all to see but not yourself.It hasn’t at all - you’re just reading what you want to read and trolling as usual CRS. Perhaps it’s about time I made you the first member of my block list, you bring absolutely nothing to the table.
I believe that you are well wrong about the government. Here is what I believe is a fair summary of the current situation. Taking the emotion out of it as much as I can....In my view the government have done a half decent job of it. They followed the advice of their senior medical team.
The reality is that the British people are not good at being told what to do, its a hard win to tell a family they are having no money coming in for an unknown period of time.
Hopefully today is a signal of improvement on the lowering of deaths.
February was a missed chance , but there were very few cases and I doubt people would have listened .
Weegord does my opinion make me a mass killer? You should be ashamed of yourself
I believe that you are well wrong about the government. Here is what I believe is a fair summary of the current situation. Taking the emotion out of it as much as I can....I personally think it's been handled fairly well in the circumstances. Its unprecedented.
I would agree that we had a head start and more preparation could have been done. In hand with that then why didn't we close borders straight away. All internal and external flights - non essential. No holidays, no business.
Some of the measures that have been put in place in such a fairly short space of time have been impressive and hopefully ensure we can get the country running again when were through this.
Whatever side of the fence your on, it's a terrible, dynamic, hard to control situation.
Stay safe everybody
I believe that you are well wrong about the government. Here is what I believe is a fair summary of the current situation. Taking the emotion out of it as much as I can....Its strange how the Tories on here have jumped to defend the Govt, people have the right to criticise how its been handled. The Govt have probably done their best imho, they arent exactly good at what they do with simple things anyway and we have to accept that.
The neglect of the NHS and associated system has finally come to bite the Tories and their voters on the asre, thing is its ended up biting us all.
In my province of Almería in Spain the figures are still small (115 incidents, 7 deaths I believe were the figures yesterday). Since we started the lock down (10-11 days ago) we have had days where the figures have hardly changed. Then yesterday we had 24 additional incidents. So it is clear that the changes on one day are not enough to give people positive feelings. It needs to be a continued multi-day trend. My guess is that the UK is not at that point yet.Oh someone said earlier in the thread that UK deaths had started to decline, I am not sure why but the numbers came in very late at 43 new deaths. They haven't started to decline and it doesn't seem likely they will decline anytime soon. By that I mean 10 days or so. At that point social distancing may begin to have an impact, let's hope so.
Your absoloutely right, but human nature being what it is, we are all looking for any ray of hope, which is understandable.In my province of Almería in Spain the figures are still small (115 incidents, 7 deaths I believe were the figures yesterday). Since we started the lock down (10-11 days ago) we have had days where the figures have hardly changed. Then yesterday we had 24 additional incidents. So it is clear that the changes on one day are not enough to give people positive feelings. It needs to be a continued multi-day trend. My guess is that the UK is not at that point yet.
During the biggest global crisis since the Second World War this Government has been sitting on its hands and trying to protect the economy more than the lives of its citizens. We had a head start on the likes of China, Italy and Spain and we did NOT heed their warnings; if this had been tackled head on then the number of deaths would no doubt be significantly less.
Boris Johnson has dithered around trying to keep big business and the markets happy (who just so happen to be the main source of funds for the Tory party) and only acted when he was left with no other choice.
It was suggested in the media that he only enforced the closure of pubs, restaurants, cinemas etc when given an ultimatum by President Macron that he would close the French border to the UK effectively damaging our supply lines. Then, he only enforced a sort of lockdown when senior members of his Cabinet threatened a revolt.
He promised help for the self-employed, of which there are over 5m people in the UK. None has been forthcoming. Workers in many industries are still being made to go to work despite their concerns, and all because he hasn't enforced a strict lockdown. Likewise, the tube trains are rammed and 500 police officers are 'advising' travellers on the trains to only travel where essential.
It's an absolute mess and this Government's decisions (or lack thereof) over recent weeks will sadly sound the death knell for countless people.