Anti 'Jawdie Arabia' flag at Crystal Palace game today - police investigation

To put it another way, is there any difference between how Newcastle fans have reacted to the takeover and how Leeds, Palace, Boro or anyone else would if they were the beneficiaries? I hope so but it's unproven for the time being.
 
br14 said:
500 people a year in the UK commit suicide because of gambling debts.

Or would you prefer we were sponsored by a loan company that charged 118% interest? I wonder how many people kill themselves when faced with mounting debts they can't pay.

Is morality really just a question of scale?
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I've not bought a piece of Boro memorabilia with 888, Ramsdens or 32Red on. Back in the 888 days I wrote to the club & said I wouldn't buy a shirt for me or my children with that sponsor on & they weren't interested.

Shortly after that the govt said that gambling sponsors shouldn't be on kids shirts & now 14 years later they are saying the same about adult shirts.

Hopefully it won't take that long for them to get rid of despotic regimes owning the clubs.
 
spacecake said:
That's because the "anti takeover voices" are hypocrites.
It's worth noting that apparantly Steve Parish was the most vocal objecter in the recent premier league meeting convened to illegally stop Newcastle from doing sponsorship deals.
It does raise the question wether he was responsible for it?
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Is Steve Parish the Palace fan who made the banner? Don't think so, so don't attach hypocrite to the palace fans who did it, that's just lazy on your part. I had look yesterday at the Holmesdale fanatics website and they have certainly pulled up other owners with banners like this, Chelsea, Man City etc in the past and were even talking about their owners coming in for criticism.
But before we start calling people with anti- Saudi views as hypocrites it may be worth remembering why the Saudis are deserving of it more than the others, apart from the war in Yemen, where thousands are starving while Saudi Arabia bombs parts of its country at the same time as spending hundreds of millions on a football club, its worth remembering this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi
 
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exeterboro said:
Is Steve Parish the Palace fan who made the banner? Don't think so, so don't attach hypocrite to the palace fans who did it, that's just lazy on your part. I had look yesterday at the Holmesdale fanatics website and they have certainly pulled up other owners with banners like this, Chelsea, Man City etc in the past and were even talking about their owners coming in for criticism.
But before we start calling people with anti- Saudi views as hypocrites it may be worth remembering why the Saudis are deserving of it more than the others, apart from the war in Yemen( don't see Steve Parish killing thousands of people) its worth remembering this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi
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what happened to Jamal Kashoggi was indeed Barbaric, I wonder what motivated the Saudi's to do it?
 
Let's put it this way, the why is not important here, but the fact that they did is, he was strangled as soon as entering the building.
 
On the Palace sites yesterday there was some posters putting quite vile stuff about some sections of Palace fans because of their anti takeover views
This is gonna be the norm now, a little menace here and there and from who or which source, individual or other, who knows but it will be ongoing as the banners keep coming out.
 
exeterboro said:
On the Palace sites yesterday there was some posters putting quite vile stuff about some sections of Palace fans because of their anti takeover views
This is gonna be the norm now, a little menace here and there and from who or which source, individual or other, who knows but it will be ongoing as the banners keep coming out.
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Yes. I know for sure that Qatar and UAE (so I presume that Saudi would be the same) have "employees" that influence the narrative via Social media.

Football fans in general don't realise that they have more power than they think. Just look at the news and discussion that this banner has instigated - long may it continue. The Premier League/Saudi must be squirming.
 
Current footballers don't have much choice but to comply with their employer's requirements.

Multi-millionaire former footballers however do and should be using their standing and influence to call out human rights abuses, misogyny, racism and corrupton wherever it occurs.
 
As I've said a couple of times. It's a bit rich having a pop at Newcastle when Britain has sold billions in weapons to Saudi Arabia and continues to encourage them to buy stuff in Britain. Is it any different really? This country by-proxy supported the bombardment of innocent people in Yeman.
 
Nero said:
As I've said a couple of times. It's a bit rich having a pop at Newcastle when Britain has sold billions in weapons to Saudi Arabia and continues to encourage them to buy stuff in Britain. Is it any different really? This country by-proxy supported the bombardment of innocent people in Yeman.
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I don't think you'll find many people in this country who would support selling arms to these savages
 
BoroFur said:
Current footballers don't have much choice but to comply with their employer's requirements.

Multi-millionaire former footballers however do and should be using their standing and influence to call out human rights abuses, misogyny, racism and corrupton wherever it occurs.
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There is absolutely nothing to prevent a current Newcastle player from expressing public disapproval of MSB in the strongest possible terms. Well, nothing apart from the fear of dismemberment.
 
Nero said:
Where is the outrage then?
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Probably not in the press you are reading but it is about. Lots of people are standing up for the human rights of others, but if you have created a echo chamber out of your own beliefs and perceived ' hypocrisy' of others then you won't see or read about about what other groups are doing, because apart from one or two circumstances it won't get much attention in your world and when it does like now, you put it down to the hypocrisy of others.
 
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