Andy McDonald suspended over rally comments

mercury_redstone7 said:
It did yeah. Its a good read and I can see you are sincere in your actions. I have been reading you for donkeys (not the football stuff) but your normal political posts and thoughts.
You have always posted and highlighted the Palestinian plight and I hope you don't think I'm against anything you have posted. It just looked a bit odd that a man who posts and highlights the hopelessness felt by Palestinians had Montgomery as his avatar. I hope you forgive me if you thought I was rude or aggressive with it. I didnt mean to be, it was more to highlight Montgomery's back story.

We may be at the different ends of the left spectrum, but I can live with a bit of difference. And for the record I`m not a monarchist.
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My football stuff is over-the-rop with optimism and irony and sarcasm and I love Boro. (y)
 
asredastheycome said:
Anybody watch last night broadcast of Newsnight. Andy MacDonald explained his position perfectly even though Kirsty Wark constantly tried to get him to apologise for his statement.

I can only find it on Iplayer but if you have an account you can watch it here

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Newsnight - Suspended Labour MP Speaks Out

Labour MP Andy McDonald gives his first interview since he was suspended from the party.
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To be fair it wasnt kirsty wark asking him to apologise
 
Laughing said:
I don't think we are disagreeing. The press set Corbyn's agenda because anti-semitism and pro-terroris was their agenda, not Labours.
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We do agree up to that point. Where I can't agree is the idea that Corbyn and the rest of the party leadership didn't care how they were perceived. I wish they hadn't! It wouldn't all have stuck then. Instead they started doing things like writing the IHRA definition into their internal constitution chasing an impossible "atta boy". They knew at the time it wasn't suitable for writing a disciplinary procedure around and put it in anyway because they cared more about what the press were saying than trusting their own convictions. See also going along with the Brexit referendum rerun policy despite knowing it would bury them.
 
SuperStu said:
We do agree up to that point. Where I can't agree is the idea that Corbyn and the rest of the party leadership didn't care how they were perceived. I wish they hadn't! It wouldn't all have stuck then. Instead they started doing things like writing the IHRA definition into their internal constitution chasing an impossible "atta boy". They knew at the time it wasn't suitable for writing a disciplinary procedure around and put it in anyway because they cared more about what the press were saying than trusting their own convictions. See also going along with the Brexit referendum rerun policy despite knowing it would bury them.
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Ah right I follow your thinking stu. You are probably right on that.
 
Israel not found any "Hamas terrorists" for the 9000+ civilian dead and over 30,000 civilians wounded [plus hundreds still under the rubble] ?
Its like knowing a gunman in is hiding in a kids school - so you bomb the school flat and kill all the kids as well.


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Israel-Palestine live: Thousands in state of panic as Israel continues to strike hospitals

More US organisations, including labour unions and Biden staffers, join call for ceasefire in Gaza
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r00fie1 said:
Israel not found any "Hamas terrorists" for the 9000+ civilian dead and over 30,000 civilians wounded [plus hundreds still under the rubble] ?
Its like knowing a gunman in is hiding in a kids school - so you bomb the school flat and kill all the kids as well.


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Israel-Palestine live: Thousands in state of panic as Israel continues to strike hospitals

More US organisations, including labour unions and Biden staffers, join call for ceasefire in Gaza
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I've seen a few videos on Twitter from the hospital and I can't believe that nobody in the west is calling for a ceasefire.
 
Please be careful what you believe on twitter and other social media platforms. There's so much misinformation being spread by both sides, there's even a guy (crisis actor) that's been killed at least twice but still appearing in and posting videos.
 
Chris_Boro said:
Please be careful what you believe on twitter and other social media platforms. There's so much misinformation being spread by both sides, there's even a guy (crisis actor) that's been killed at least twice but still appearing in and posting videos.
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You must also be wary of people claiming to be revealing these events. I saw one on twitter making claims that someone had died two days running and from the pictures you could see that it was clearly a different bloke. However, against all that I would say that a couple of bad actors doesn't reduce the carnage we can all see with our own eyes.
 
Chris_Boro said:
Please be careful what you believe on twitter and other social media platforms. There's so much misinformation being spread by both sides, there's even a guy (crisis actor) that's been killed at least twice but still appearing in and posting videos.
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Al Shifa Hospital was bombed yesterday by the Isreali military

The videos have been shown/blurred by Sky and Channel 4 and verified the BBC

And Channel Four and other media are pretty much saying they think the death toll of over 9000 is almost certainly correct.
 
WJH. said:
Al Shifa Hospital was bombed yesterday by the Isreali military

The videos have been shown/blurred by Sky and Channel 4 and verified the BBC

And Channel Four and other media are pretty much saying they think the death toll of over 9000 is almost certainly correct.
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I'm not denying any of this, what do you think I'm trying to say?

What Israel is doing is abhorrent and disgusting, the innocent civilians of Gaza do not deserve to be cast aside as merely collateral damage.

The videos coming out of Gaza are heartbreaking. Unfortunately, some of the images and videos being widely circulated are also false information, taken from other atrocities or natural disasters and spread as if from Gaza. It's easy to get caught up in it all.
 
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