Andy McDonald suspended over rally comments

[johnsmithsno2]

From the river to the sea

 

[SE4 Red]

Struggling to understand Labour's position. I know they want to distance themselves from the Corbyn period but who can look at what McDonald said and actually disagree with it?

 

[breakthewallsdown]

That's my Labour membership cancelled

 

[johnsmithsno2]

He was unwise to use that phrase, even though he specifically gave it a different meaning.

 

[bumface]

I've been telling you all that Starmer is a **** for years. I was right. I'm always right.

 

[SE4 Red]

That's my Labour membership cancelled

Starmer has to be careful, he is going to alienate a lot on the left. Far left have already gone but the soft left who will hold their nose to get the tories out might start having second thoughts.

 

[SE4 Red]

He was unwise to use that phrase, even though he specifically gave it a different meaning.

Maybe, but who can actually disagree with what he said?

 

[xxlshirts_fit_all]

labour have gone from being nailed on to win a massive majority to now scrabbling about to stay relevant…
I fully believe they’re in a no win situation as they want to win votes of those who couldn’t give a fluck about Palestinians but risk losing the respect of those who think Labour should be a voice of the people…

 

[TeaCider]

It's a really bizarre choice of phrase to use at a pro-Palestine rally.

On the face of it, the overall message is a positive one, but why would he include a phrase that's often had genocidal intent attached to it?

Even if it's an attempt to try and "reclaim" the phrase for peace on both sides, it's just needlessly controversial.

I don't really agree with him being suspended over it though.

 

[johnsmithsno2]

Maybe, but who can actually disagree with what he said?

But to use those words knowing that many of the people he was speaking to use them to call for the destruction of Israel - why do that?

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

He was unwise to use that phrase, even though he specifically gave it a different meaning.

It's about time someone did. That phrase originated in the 1940's as a response to the Nakba and was a call for freedom for Palestinians. It is a geographical description of a strip of land and just because Zionist settlers have since framed it as a call to wipe Israel off the map does not make it so and McDonald pointedly used that language as a plea for peace for everyone on that strip of land.

Let's not have inoffensive language prosribed by a political organisation for its own benefit.

 

[Norman_Conquest]

McDonald is a clever enough man to know what he said could be used against him and is very controversial.

 

[BiggEggo]

Children being killed for the sins of their fathers.

Most of religion is a real bag of crap when you take a good look at it.

And most politicians seem more preoccupied with scoring party points over each other than actually finding a solution to stop the killing.

 

[Trug]

I've been telling you all that Starmer is a **** for years. I was right. I'm always right.

I agree with you Bumface

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

What he said

 

[boroboy6872]

Holding my nose next GE then

 

[bumface]

I agree with you Bumface

I'll forgive you for getting my name wrong. I'm bumface, not Bumface.

Agreeing with me is probably a bad idea. Don't blame me if BoroFur does a poo on your patio.

 

[Norfolkred1]

I thought Labour could do no wrong!

 

[FabioPorkpie]

I thought Labour could do no wrong!

Why did you think?

 

[bumface]

I thought Labour could do no wrong!

Why on earth would you think that?

edit - Fabio beat me to it.