And about time. Blue cards.

Good idea or bad

  • Good

    Votes: 23 23.7%

  • Bad

    Votes: 74 76.3%
  • Total voters
    97
I don't have an issue in principle with the sin bin idea, but the way footy is going with every, single decision micro analysed and extra pressure being heaped on the officials.....hmmm, 🤔🤔.

Rather the rulers had a proper crackdown on diving and players rolling around holding their face to get the game stopped. I'd rather have a 10 min concussion protocol introduced for this.
 
They're ruining the game.
Anyone who sees a lad sin binned will just throw ten men behind the ball, we'll see ridiculous time wasting and clock watching and the rest of the dark arts.
It won't be a 10min where the team with 11 have a upper hand, it'll be boring, slow 10min of clock watching nonsense.
 
If refs were good enough we wouldn’t need this gimmick.

It’s a power play in hockey terms it’s a completely different game with this.
 
Other sports have green cards, they work. It could work with football, as it's already too hard to get a yellow card, especially early in the game, so would put people on the path of that earlier in the game.

Or, they could just fix the yellow cards? It's nonsense that a player can get "let off" with a bad foul, because it's early in the game, it shouldn't even be a thought in the refs mind, but we all know it is, every game.
 
Juninhoburger said:
Stupid idea, you'll just get teams sticking 10 men behind the ball whenever they have a player in the sin bin, it'll slow the pace of the game right down
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I'm not sure, good teams won't stop the pressure, and bad teams do that anyway.

10 men sitting back in their own half doesn't often work out well.
 
We have 10 minute sin bins for dissent in our league already. They work quite well to be honest. Must caveat that with the inconsistency of ref's applying them is still an issue...

Professional foul should be a yellow card, no need for additional layers or interpretation problems.
 
I instinctively voted yes without giving it much thought.... then read some of the above comments and realised I was wrong, vote changed.

Perhaps I'm a little impulsive.
 
They need to do something about the dissent too, and crowding the ref etc. I can't think of any other sport which is like this, and it sets a bad example for the kids etc.
 
Jedi boro said:
If refs were good enough we wouldn’t need this gimmick.

It’s a power play in hockey terms it’s a completely different game with this.
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The referees ARE good enough. The issue is that they are constantly being given more and more laws and directives to enact and carry out, they are being completely overloaded with information and ar the same time having to put up with incessant cheating, diving and general sh*thousery from players and coaches alike. The scrutiny most of those officiating in the top two leagues especially is completely unfair and really unhelpful.

People just can’t accept a decision. It’s actually pathetic to watch how the game is being changed to accommodate this outlook. Players, coaches, fans, pundits, so many of them behave like babies at times. To the point where we all now have to go through yet another bunch of changes and reforms.

I would love to see those who constantly moan about referees and blame them for their own teams’ inadequacies at various times try and referee a game themselves. They’d soon put a sock in it.
 
Jedi boro said:
Really you honestly think that, as some of the clowns we’ve had have had of late don’t back that up.
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I’ve explained why I think that.

I would love to see you referee a game, I really would. There is no vendetta against Middlesbrough. Some you get, some you don’t. People need to grow up and stop blaming referees. I would absolutely love the referees to go on strike for a weekend. We’ll see how we get on without them.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
I’ve explained why I think that.

I love to see you referee a game, I really would. There is no vendetta against Middlesbrough. Some you get, some you don’t. People need to grow up and stop blaming referees. I would absolutely love the referees to go on strike for a weekend. We’ll see how we get on without them.
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When people like carrick are openly criticising Refs then there’s clearly an issue.
 
They should just have zero tolerance towards dissent and cheating. I think referees are as good now as ever as their full time and dedicate their life to the sport - its consistency thats required. It would be nice to see the FA publishing things and sharing stuff like referees meeting up, discussing games, aligning together to discuss the rules, discuss events etc rather than just seeing Howard Webb on sky once a month doing VAR.

ANY form of dissent, hand waving, sarcastic clapping etc is a yellow card. Do it again, even continuing in the same instance and you get a second and you're off.
Diving or simulation, waving imaginary yellow cards immediate yellow card. This is MEANT to happen but again we see it quite often and players waving to get a player booked and they only get booked themselves now and again.

It would start off with 10+ yellow cards in every game but they'll soon learn. You could have stricter rules in terms of build up of yellow cards aswell so at the minute its something like 5 yellows over 20 games and you get a ban, just change it to as soon as you get 5 you're banned for a game. Then next 5 you're banned for 2. Players will learn to behave and act appropriately.

Retrospective yellow cards should also be a thing so if a referee missed a gesture, missed a player walking off calling him a "f****** useless c***" then he can be found guilty afterwards and receive a yellow for that offence which counts towards his current total and towards any ban he may face.

I wouldn't go down the route of only the captain can approach the referee but i think respect is important. You can't be seen to make a foul or have a decision go against you and then blatantly clap, gesture or shout at an official.

Stricter referees is whats required not blue cards and sin bins. Clamp down harder, be consistent with it and it won't take long for players to curb their ways.
 
London_Boro said:
I instinctively voted yes without giving it much thought.... then read some of the above comments and realised I was wrong, vote changed.

Perhaps I'm a little impulsive.
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What you need is a blue card, sit out for 10 and think about what you've done. Should sort out your reckless behaviour!
 
VestasBoro said:
They should just have zero tolerance towards dissent and cheating. I think referees are as good now as ever as their full time and dedicate their life to the sport - its consistency thats required. It would be nice to see the FA publishing things and sharing stuff like referees meeting up, discussing games, aligning together to discuss the rules, discuss events etc rather than just seeing Howard Webb on sky once a month doing VAR.

ANY form of dissent, hand waving, sarcastic clapping etc is a yellow card. Do it again, even continuing in the same instance and you get a second and you're off.
Diving or simulation, waving imaginary yellow cards immediate yellow card. This is MEANT to happen but again we see it quite often and players waving to get a player booked and they only get booked themselves now and again.

It would start off with 10+ yellow cards in every game but they'll soon learn. You could have stricter rules in terms of build up of yellow cards aswell so at the minute its something like 5 yellows over 20 games and you get a ban, just change it to as soon as you get 5 you're banned for a game. Then next 5 you're banned for 2. Players will learn to behave and act appropriately.

Retrospective yellow cards should also be a thing so if a referee missed a gesture, missed a player walking off calling him a "f****** useless c***" then he can be found guilty afterwards and receive a yellow for that offence which counts towards his current total and towards any ban he may face.

I wouldn't go down the route of only the captain can approach the referee but i think respect is important. You can't be seen to make a foul or have a decision go against you and then blatantly clap, gesture or shout at an official.

Stricter referees is whats required not blue cards and sin bins. Clamp down harder, be consistent with it and it won't take long for players to curb their ways.
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Referees need to be empowered to dole out more yellow and red cards for dissent. That’s how you’ll stop it. You don’t need a blue card. You book them and send them off. It’ll soon end.
 
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