Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

[Boro.Fur]

Penalties are so inconsistent this year, other lap one incidents which were way worse went unpunished

Apparently the drivers asked the stewards to be tougher with penalties.

 

[SmallTown]

Didn't see it: but noticed Ham went from 18th to 4th. How good is he? Probably the best ever

 

[Boro.Fur]

Didn't see it: but noticed Ham went from 18th to 4th. How good is he? Probably the best ever

He was 14 seconds behind George after his final pitstop. On fresh mediums he got him on the final lap

 

[SmallTown]

He was 14 seconds behind George after his final Pitstone. On fresh mediums he got him on the final lap

Holy ship! Man he really is the GOAT. And that means he beat Russell in the 3 years they were together. Despite running experimental set ups for 2 of those years

 

[Boro.Fur]

 

[JM14]

Holy ship! Man he really is the GOAT. And that means he beat Russell in the 3 years they were together. Despite running experimental set ups for 2 of those years

Russell still finished over 20 points ahead and should have been far more if not for the spa disqualification. He definitely had the edge on him this season

 

[Boro.Fur]

Russell still finished over 20 points ahead and should have been far more if not for the spa disqualification. He definitely had the edge on him this season

The disqualification was justified so shouldn't come into the conversation really.

 

[JM14]

The disqualification was justified so shouldn't come into the conversation really.

It was justified but it was something the driver had no control over, or had any significant advantage due to it.
But even without those points, he had a significantly better season than Hamilton did

 

[Boro.Fur]

It was justified but it was something the driver had no control over, or had any significant advantage due to it.
But even without those points, he had a significantly better season than Hamilton did

22 points and 1 place ahead. On average less than 1 point per race weekend. I think we have different measures of what constitutes significant

 

[ForssAwakens]

These tells you the story of the season

 

[JM14]

22 points and 1 place ahead. On average less than 1 point per race weekend. I think we have different measures of what constitutes significant

Against a driver like Hamilton that is a significant amount, plus he also out qualified him in 3/4 of the races this season as well.

And without the mistake made by the team in spa that caused the DQ, it would have been over 50 points

 

[Boro.Fur]

Against a driver like Hamilton that is a significant amount

Not really, like I said less than 1 point per race weekend.

plus he also out qualified him in 3/4 of the races this season as well.

No points awarded for qualifying last time I looked.

And without the mistake made by the team in spa that caused the DQ, it would have been over 50 points

He was disqualified because his car was underweight having only stopped once. For his car not to be underweight he would have needed to stop again meaning with the time lost he wouldn't have won anyway.

 

[Boro.Fur]

These tells you the story of the season

Only the top one means anything. The rest are completely irrelevant.

 

[RavsFan]

Great drive from Hamilton. He’ll show his class in the Ferrari next season alright

 

[Maccarone]

Let's hope so would love him to win his 8th championship, can't see it though..

 

[JM14]

Not really, like I said less than 1 point per race weekend.


No points awarded for qualifying last time I looked.


He was disqualified because his car was underweight having only stopped once. For his car not to be underweight he would have needed to stop again meaning with the time lost he wouldn't have won anyway.

Regardless of how you want to word it, Russell is just a better driver at the moment, that’s just a fact.
In the same car to out qualify a team mate 3/4 of the season is huge
Even if Russell did pit in spa that’s still a second place at worst and a further 18 points, he lost at least a second place and another 18 points in Silverstone with a reliability issue which again was nothing to do with the driver. The fact he only finished 25 points ahead doesn’t really reflect how much better Russell actually was this season

 

[RavsFan]

Regardless of how you want to word it, Russell is just a better driver at the moment, that’s just a fact.
In the same car to out qualify a team mate 3/4 of the season is huge
Even if Russell did pit in spa that’s still a second place at worst and a further 18 points, he lost at least a second place and another 18 points in Silverstone with a reliability issue which again was nothing to do with the driver. The fact he only finished 25 points ahead doesn’t really reflect how much better Russell actually was this season

If you have two drivers and you know one is leaving through their choice, who is going to get the best service from the company and the greatest attention to detail, calls, needs and opportunity ....... hmm its a tough one and no mistake

 

[ForssAwakens]

Only the top one means anything. The rest are completely irrelevant.

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I assure you the teams looks at more parameters than points when assessing their drivers

 

[ForssAwakens]

If you have two drivers and you know one is leaving through their choice, who is going to get the best service from the company and the greatest attention to detail, calls, needs and opportunity ....... hmm its a tough one and no mistake

This isn’t the first season Russell has beat Hamilton

 

[Boro.Fur]

I assure you the teams looks at more parameters than points when assessing their drivers

Not in the context of comparing Russell vs Hamilton they don't. One of them is their No.1 driver next season, the other one is leaving. A better measure of their respective abilities will come next season I would imagine.