I think Carrick is on the brink
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Alzi
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Gibbo can pull the trigger quite quickly these days and had we got turned over by Norwich there would have been very vocal calls.It’s a good job those involved in the club don’t react like us fans!
BoroMart
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He’s his own man, he isn’t in firing mood
On The Bob
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Despite our poor run of form, I certainly didn’t want Carrick to go, nor did I think he was in danger.
If the club are planning for the longer term and signing younger players who can be developed / coached etc. then all of that can take time.
He’s dealt with a lot of issues this season which I won’t bang on about as we all know them - transfer business / strategy change, injuries to senior players, lack of strikers, managing a very young / inexperienced squad at times etc.
This season has been disappointing and Carrick has made mistakes but he’s still young and learning. I’ve seen more than enough in his time here to believe he’s the right man for the job for our long term strategy and goals.
People can have their opinions of course, but I do think as fans, that we need to look at the bigger picture at times. The transfer strategy we’ve moved to doesn’t often provide overnight success, which appreciate isn’t very popular in a modern world where people want everything now.
The challenge will be maintaining the core of our current squad and keeping our best players in the summer, and hopefully building on what we have by adding more quality.
Whether that happens or not is down to Gibbo, Bausor, Scott etc. and I’m sure Carrick will just keep cracking on and doing his best with what he’s got at his disposal.
If the club are planning for the longer term and signing younger players who can be developed / coached etc. then all of that can take time.
He’s dealt with a lot of issues this season which I won’t bang on about as we all know them - transfer business / strategy change, injuries to senior players, lack of strikers, managing a very young / inexperienced squad at times etc.
This season has been disappointing and Carrick has made mistakes but he’s still young and learning. I’ve seen more than enough in his time here to believe he’s the right man for the job for our long term strategy and goals.
People can have their opinions of course, but I do think as fans, that we need to look at the bigger picture at times. The transfer strategy we’ve moved to doesn’t often provide overnight success, which appreciate isn’t very popular in a modern world where people want everything now.
The challenge will be maintaining the core of our current squad and keeping our best players in the summer, and hopefully building on what we have by adding more quality.
Whether that happens or not is down to Gibbo, Bausor, Scott etc. and I’m sure Carrick will just keep cracking on and doing his best with what he’s got at his disposal.
BoroMart
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spot on.
His overall record for us is played 67, won 34, drawn 9 lost 24 scored 118, conceded 87. It's over 50% win rate. scoring nearly 2 goals a game. Lots to be happy about. We could look at microcosms of form, but form is temporary as they say. Much of that form can be blamed on a huge injury crisis, I think it was worked out that we have 7 players unavailable every game on average this season. That isn't sustainable unless you have parachute payments, we don't. A top ten finish isn't disastrous. On field entertainment has been hot and cold this season but he's shown last year he can create a free flowing attack with the right players.
We have wiped out our debt, got rid of our expensive baggage, and built an FFP war chest this season, while riding out an injury crisis and have no need to sell. We have increased the playing assets that we own, and improved some of them with experience. We are in a position to give Carrick the players to step upwards and onwards and he deserrves that backing.
Give Carrick more options up the top end, and a quality long term replacement for Howon, someone like Ardon Jasheri would be a real statement of intent, and we could push on significantly next year. The teams coming down look more beatable than Leeds, Southampton and Leicester too.
I really hope we deliver on this summer war chest you've been promising everyone
Johngannonsunderpants
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I dont agree, he's clearly a talented manager and wants to play the game a certain way, however he can (and has) changed the way we play on a number of occasions.
When we have injuries (as we have) he gives the replacements the opportunity to play in the same way and shows a lot of faith in them. When he knows it won't work he changes it and he's done this in different ways.
Early season he wasn't too proud to go back to a successful formula for other managers by playing Izzy and Crooksy close together and our form changed massively.
In games where he knows we can't dominate possession he plays more defensively and uses wing backs.
Now due to having less options and realising Barlaser can't do Hackney's role he's employing similar tactics against teams who we can dominate possession against. The sign of a good manager is being able to turn terrible form around and he does that.
The reason we sacked Mogga was he was unable to do that (or did not want to comprise how he wants the game to be played) but eventually his most successful spell at Blackburn was when he was forced to play counter attacking football, but he didn't like it and I imagine Carrick doesn't either.
I think it largely depends on what day of the week it is, and how many pints our fans have had when posting.
Gunslinger
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He's definately learnig and is not dogmatic to just playing the same way all the time to try and force a result
The 5-3-2 is fundamentally different to the 4-2-3-1 with a totally different style of play, which for me shows a manager willing to adapt and try
something new , he was also correct to persist with the 4-2-3-1 as long as he did as continuity in style is sometimes almost as important as results
The 5-3-2 is fundamentally different to the 4-2-3-1 with a totally different style of play, which for me shows a manager willing to adapt and try
something new , he was also correct to persist with the 4-2-3-1 as long as he did as continuity in style is sometimes almost as important as results
MolteniArcore
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Alzi
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I like Carrick and didn't want him sacked, I was just pointing out Gibbo can pull the trigger relatively quickly when thing start to go south particularly with Monk and Wilder in recent years. I do get that there may have been other things going on behind the scenes with those two individuals.
It's often the case on this forum that people struggle to distinguish the difference between what people think will happen and what they want to happen.
ForssAwakens
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At least someone was sensible
BoroMart
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Our avoidance of injuries is rubbish, our available player list is rubbish our fit cf choices are often rubbish
Theyalwaysletyoudown
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I agree with this guy
Redwurzel
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A 50% win rate is nothing to be sniffed at, probably the best of any Boro manager I can remember. I haven't got all the stats to compare. I know Pulis was about 42% and Warnock was about 38%. Aitor's Championship record will be 50% for Boro, but lower when Forest and Brum are added. Under Carrick the Club must have made about £12m profit on transfer fees too.