I think Carrick is on the brink

Wiseman_Vaughn said:
if you start from the point of view that he is a good coach and hard to replace - you get behind him and give him time - just like we DIDN'T do with Gareth Southgate.
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And again currently Southgate has won?

With arguably the most talented squad of players England have ever produced?

On coaching the league table tells you other wise, if and as you say he is a good coach then he should be able to improve these players at the club, last year he was giving better players, this year he has to work with some rough players with that may mean changing your desired tactics for the benefit of the available players.

I want Carrick to do well but in his time in charge he has shown a stubbornness towards his philosophy and a tactical inability to adapt if this continues this will only end in one way.

Results dictate success!
 
Diego said:
He’s under pressure and anyone would be stupid to assume otherwise.

We are 6 points off the drop zone and letting goals in for fun. He needs a win very soon. I really like Carrick but he’s hardly blameless and he is the man responsible for making the same mistakes in his team selections.
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Agreed. I like Carrick a lot I think he's a good man and he has potential to be a very good manager, if Gibson wanted to stick by him then I would have zero problems with that at all. However as you say he is far from blameless and I just can't be convinced that the players we have are as bad as the performances are showing. I'm not saying we have a top 6 squad but we certainly don't have a relegation form kind of squad, twice this season we've been on runs where we're performing like a relegation threatened side.

I know a lot hate his post match interviews too but I genuinely couldn't care less what he has to say, he is simply protecting the group as any good manager will do these days. I get that people want him to say what we are all thinking but that just doesn't work anymore, you lose the dressing room real quick if you start throwing players under the bus.
 
BoroMad87 said:
And again currently Southgate has won?

With arguably the most talented squad of players England have ever produced?

On coaching the league table tells you other wise, if and as you say he is a good coach then he should be able to improve these players at the club, last year he was giving better players, this year he has to work with some rough players with that may mean changing your desired tactics for the benefit of the available players.

I want Carrick to do well but in his time in charge he has shown a stubbornness towards his philosophy and a tactical inability to adapt if this continues this will only end in one way.

Results dictate success!
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I think this and the SG post kind of merge into one.
We’ve had a string of managers with experience and track records of getting clubs promoted - they didn’t succeed here.
Now we appoint a young coach who has given us some good times but, for a host of reasons, has got us going backwards.

Seems kind of pointless doing a rinse and repeat and expecting something different.
I’d suggest there is something more fundamentally wrong at the club.
 
Chappy112 said:
Agreed. I like Carrick a lot I think he's a good man and he has potential to be a very good manager, if Gibson wanted to stick by him then I would have zero problems with that at all. However as you say he is far from blameless and I just can't be convinced that the players we have are as bad as the performances are showing. I'm not saying we have a top 6 squad but we certainly don't have a relegation form kind of squad, twice this season we've been on runs where we're performing like a relegation threatened side.

I know a lot hate his post match interviews too but I genuinely couldn't care less what he has to say, he is simply protecting the group as any good manager will do these days. I get that people want him to say what we are all thinking but that just doesn't work anymore, you lose the dressing room real quick if you start throwing players under the bus.
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This exactly, although as fans we would like to here our thoughts in public, as a manager there is a time and a place and for an already low on confidence group, if you come out and slate the players or single out any one the group can swiftly turn into a rotten core.
 
Wiseman_Vaughn said:
I wonder - At what point will MC say: "I've done all I can here" and be tempted by biggerbudget and resources elsewhere? WHU comes to mind
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Be an interesting discussion in the West Ham board room.

“Playoffs to a championship relegation battle in under a year and the worst team Boro fans have seen in years. He’s our man!”

Who is 2nd on their list, Michael Beale?
 
Wiseman_Vaughn said:
wow
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Have you watched our last 2 games (or any number of games this season) ? They were as bad as the dross Strachan/Woody served up and when we were in Mogga’s final year.

It has been a long time since we have lost so many games in a championship season and we are on track to lose a whole bunch more.
 
B_G said:
Karanka got us promoted by setting us up more pragmatically and making us tough to score against. Sometimes it was a tough watch but he knew how to get results
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Exactly this.
Its time to treat our next 3 or 4 opponents as if we're playing Villa or Leicester and grind out a few draws. In fact I'd love us get two or three Karanka-style 0-0 draws on the bounce to get some confidence back into that defence. I heard on Slaven's podcast that since MC arrived we've only kept three clean sheets away from home. 😔

Although there's probably too many shyte teams below us for all of them to overtake us, we shouldn't take anything as a given until we reach 50 points.
 
I don't understand why everyone thinks he's a good coach, really. He's still very much in the "making mistakes" phase, and he looks like he can't learn from them at the moment. I get that he's an articulate, intelligent well spoken man who clearly knows the game backwards, but we're utter dog poo at the moment with seemingly no quick solution to get out of it bar getting players back. To me, he's had one great period of four months where he lucked into players who couldn't stop scoring, including the bloke who'd been written off by everyone, but then it all fell apart for no real good reason and a genuine prospect of promotion just went. Yeah, we'd have struggled, but you're playing with house money, aren't you? Then the six weeks or so earlier this season but even that was when we hadn't won any of the first seven games.

Does he HAVE to play Thomas, contractually? How come one week Paddy McNair is captaining the side, the next Clarke gets shoved back in? Azaz has been a bright spark, so naturally he gets dropped for the bloke who's had one good game, and looks like we have to buy this summer, regardless of whether we should. Why not sell the one player we had - Crooks - who could come on and disrupt play and change the system mid game? It's all baffling.

But who would you get to replace him? Rooney?!?! I suspect we'll be OK because surely, surely we can scrape a couple of wins from somewhere. I am bloody sick though of "well, this season was always going to be about consolidation, wait till you see NEXT season, eh?". Well "next season" never seems to arrive does it?
 
BoroMart said:
I’m not sure sacking Carrick during a mad injury crisis after selling two players under him and not replacing them is the answer
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Probably not but unless we can scrape a couple of wins soon I imagine Gibbos @rse will be twitching.
 
* Nine points out of nine.
* 5th in the form table over the last six matches
* Able to play the same team three times in a row for the first time this season.
* 5 points short of a play-off spot after a very poor start.

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* Some bullschitt posted on social media and round abouts (n)
 
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