Well done max - f1 world champion

Harry X said:
Opinions .. we all have them... easy to say it wouldn't have mattered.

One thing saying Lewis could have attacked him on better tyres , another thing is actually getting past him (without damaging his/both cars)

Maybe the overcut might not have worked if Red Bull used Peres to lessen the effect, who knows.
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It's not opinions though. It's a fact that the wrong decision prevented Hamilton winning. Think of it like this:

Immediately prior to the Williams crashing Hamilton was 11 seconds ahead. Despite already stopping Verstappen wasn't catching and with 5 laps left was going to finished second.

Red Bull them decide to pit under the Safety Car putting Verstappen BEHIND numerous cars.

The Race Director then removes those cars and allows Verstappen to be immediately behind Hamilton having stopped for a set of new tyres!

It's absolutely madness to suggest that is a case of win some/lose some.
 
I'm not saying the race director didn't drop a massive böllock at the end with the restart, let's face it he did and it happened ... speak to him not Max or Red Bull ... all I'm saying Lewis got a massive break at the start from the race director which could have had a big influence on how the race panned out.

Sports crazy at times, that's what makes it fun
 
Harry X said:
I'm not saying the race director didn't drop a massive böllock at the end with the restart, let's face it he did and it happened ... speak to him not Max or Red Bull ... all I'm saying Lewis got a massive break at the start from the race director which could have had a big influence on how the race panned out.

Sports crazy at times, that's what makes it fun
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Thus isn't fun though. This is the rule makers deliberately ignoring their own rules.

Not punishing Lewis was a judgment call. What happened behind the safety car was a calculated breaking of a set in stone regulation in order to create a fake ending.

Let's put it this way: the Lewis incident is like the ref seeing a foul in the box but believing it to be a dive so waving away the penalty.

The safety car incident is like the ref seeing the foul, knowing it's a foul, but deciding the rule should be "foul with your left foot don't count' and waving away the penalty
 
Nero said:
It's not opinions though. It's a fact that the wrong decision prevented Hamilton winning. Think of it like this:

Immediately prior to the Williams crashing Hamilton was 11 seconds ahead. Despite already stopping Verstappen wasn't catching and with 5 laps left was going to finished second.

Red Bull them decide to pit under the Safety Car putting Verstappen BEHIND numerous cars.

The Race Director then removes those cars and allows Verstappen to be immediately behind Hamilton having stopped for a set of new tyres!

It's absolutely madness to suggest that is a case of win some/lose some.
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All of this ^

Hamilton was 12 seconds clear and there was no catching him, and then a decision was made that wiped away the advantage that he had worked himself into, while on the other hand gifting Verstappen the advantage with no merit whatsoever.

It's madness, completely unsporting and I'm not against Mercedes taking it all the way to the CAS so that it doesn't happen again. Even though as a Brit I was in favour of LH, I'd have still been agog at the unfairness if it had been Verstappen penalised in the same way. I'd have supported RB's case.
 
SmallTown said:
Yes, in another word. He was about 3 seconds ahead when he rejoined. It was under a second when they finished the lap
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the rules you give back the place you gained and not let the other driver catch you up a bit.

Big difference between being ahead in clean air than behind a bit less in dirty air.
 
Harry X said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the rules you give back the place you gained and not let the other driver catch you up a bit.

Big difference between being ahead in clean air than behind a bit less in dirty air.
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You think the mistake to not punish Hamilton for that was the same as deliberately ignoring a rule that, only a year ago, you said was a set in stone law?
 
Harry X said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the rules you give back the place you gained and not let the other driver catch you up a bit.

Big difference between being ahead in clean air than behind a bit less in dirty air.
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Not when you are forced off the track.
 
And the whataboutery continues.

Not going to let zorro the hypocrite distract from the fia breaking their own law to manufacture a result yesterday. The two events aren't even on the same level of cheating
 
go-nads! said:
If you think two stills can make a point in racing, you don't understand the sport. Context means everything.
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He knows. His hatred of Hamilton just makes him say stupid things.

But this time he knows what he's doing. He's trying to deflect from the safety car talk because it doesn't sit with his biased and hypocritical viewpoint
 
go-nads! said:
If you think two stills can make a point in racing, you don't understand the sport. Context means everything.
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I’m pointing out it’s not as one sided as you lot are making out. Max was robbed this season as well in fact some of his punishments were mystifying but nope it’s all about poor Mercedes.

btw yesterday decision had NOTHING TO DO WITH RED BULL.

unlike Mercedes that openly called for the sporting director not to deploy a safety car.
 
SmallTown said:
Ignore the whataboutery. Him and @zorro_mfc are trying to deflect from the rule breaking of the safety car farce because they know they can't defend that
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Never said that or trying to deflect anything ... feel free to show me where I've done this

All I've ever said was that Lewis got a massive break on the first lap that could have had a big influence on how the race panned out.
 
Harry X said:
Never said that or trying to deflect anything ... feel free to show me where I've done this

All I've ever said was that Lewis got a massive break on the first lap that could have had a big influence on how the race panned out.
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Yes he did and if it does go to CAS then you’ll see just how much that was.
 
zorro_mfc said:
I’m pointing out it’s not as one sided as you lot are making out. Max was robbed this season as well in fact some of his punishments were mystifying but nope it’s all about poor Mercedes.

btw yesterday decision had NOTHING TO DO WITH RED BULL.

unlike Mercedes that openly called for the sporting director not to deploy a safety car.
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You mean apart from Horner asking why there were five cars in front of Verstappen and making demands to let them race.
 
Harry X said:
Never said that or trying to deflect anything ... feel free to show me where I've done this

All I've ever said was that Lewis got a massive break on the first lap that could have had a big influence on how the race panned out.
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It seeks like it. You're ignoring a blatant and deliberate breaking of the rules. A calculated attempt to fix a sporting event, and concentrating on a minor moss by officials why would you do thay?
 
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