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You are having a mare here Andy.You don't even have a point, you just talk in hypothetical and strawman arguments against others, without offering any insight to what you think will happen.
My point is based on 95% of north east healthcare workers choosing to be vaccinated (to date) which they have, that's my base, and you've offered zero to counter that.
My point is "more patient facing nurses and doctors" will get vaxxed than "healtchare workers", and you've offered zero to counter that.
My point is some of those unvaccinated nurses will have bene off sick, pregnant or had other reasonable health reasons, and hence will not be "fired", you've offered zero to counter this.
My point is, they're not faced with "the sack", they will likely get moved to non patient facing roles, which you've not countered.
My point is, of those remaining few left, far more will just choose to have the vaccine, rather than give up on nursing, which you've not countered.
My point is, any new nurses will have to accept to be vaccinated before they even get their foot in the door.
Do you think that's going to happen? My bet is <1% of over 50's nurses (call that 0.5% of all nurses) get "sacked".
What's your number? Lets see who is closest in April?
95% of NHS workers in the north east have been vaccinated, not frontline NHS workers. Tees, Esk And Wear Valleys NHS Foundation Trust have a vaccination rate for frontline workers of 86.7% as of August this year (thats a single vaccination)
More patient facing nurses and doctors will get vaxxed than healthcare workers. Not according to the ONS. See figure above.
They will get moved to non patient facing roles. Cool that's a great use for a thoracic surgeons time. Also no where are the government saying this, it's an assumption.
Those left will choose to have the vaccination. Really, where's the evidence of that? Another Andy assumption?
New nurses will have to accept the vaccination. I made that point ages ago and have no problem with it.
You don't even have a point just talk in hypothetical strawman arguments without offerring any insight to what you think will happen. This is my personal favourite. I have said multiple times what I think will happen. The government won't enact the legislation and if they do the NHS will collapse.
As for hypotheticals, are you serious? You made one assumption after another and framed an argument around that. The assumptions were miles of the mark, and I talk about hypotheticals? I have done no such thing.
Nurses over 50 getting sacked? What? I don't think any will get sacked, I have already said this multiple times, the government won't enacted this any more than they were ever going to enact vaccine passports for nightclubs.
You are tying yourself in knots to support your original argument and you don't have to. It was erronous based on a poor news article. Let it go.