BlindBoyGrunt
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This is a thread about Keir Starmer and his shenanigans. It isn't about Corbyn it's about Starmer, but as usual it always, always comes back to Corbyn. Well Jeremy isn't the leader of the party anymore, and hasn't been for quite some time. Did he have his faults? Of course he did. As did every leader before and after him and just like every PM we've ever had. Nobody is perfect.I'm not sure what is going on in your mind, Stu.
In the New European articles I linked we had Francis Beckett, who co-authored a book with Mark Seddon about Jeremy Corbyn, give an example of some dreadful politicking by Milne on anti-semitism. We also had an article by him referring to a book by Gabriel Pogrund AND Patrick Maguire. I linked to their book, but also to a podcast as this would give you a quicker appreciation perhaps of the tone and balance
You dismiss my claim that I am looking at both sides as 'it's all just Gabriel Pogrund!'. Even if he was my only source, that doesn't mean it isn't both sides. The fella is a journalist and he and his co-author spoke to everyone they could, from every faction and position and political persuasion that was involved in the Labour Party's shenanigans under Corbyn. They spoke to the people in the rooms and they read the documents and even the whatsapp messages to verify what they could. The account they give is factual, it is balanced. That you don't like that, in fact dismiss it out of hand as you have, says much about your own mindset which is clearly way too biased to allow you to form a balanced opinion. You're not the only one.
There is plenty of scathing criticism of Corbyn's opponents and credit and understanding given to Corbyn, Milne, Murphy etc in the books. Even in the two articles, when they touch on the anti-semitism, make it clear that all four authors conclude Corbyn is not anti-semitic. That isn't the point, the criticism is how they handled the affair.
Antisemitism and Brexit were important factors. You need to accept that.
However, of all the people on this thread who defend Starmer, you are all comfortable with his purging of left wing Jews, and his expulsion of other left wing groups, here is no criticism there. You address the people who supported Corbyn's Danish style socialism as some kind of dangerous sub-group who need to be ejected from the party. None of you have anything to say about his sacking of RLB or the total lack of people from the left on his benches and yet of course you appeal for support from all sides; for a united party. You don't criticise his losing over 150,000 members although like Corbyn before him it is his job to unite the party, and you have nothing to say about the party that was left in rude financial health being on the edge of bankruptcy. Perhaps you will be happy to see big business fill the vacuum in return for favours.
Corbyn ain't the leader anymore but he's certainly a useful distraction device.