ForssAwakens
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But not old enough to drink, smoke, gamble, open a bank account, buy a house, make a will
Tory`s win Hartlepool by 6940 votes.
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WoodallServices
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Because you were thick doesn’t make it a reason not to give 16 year olds the vote.
WoodallServices
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What have the Tories done for the working man?
Pak_Doo_Ik
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This post should be emailed to the Labour Party HQ as a starting point for the next GE campaign.
WoodallServices
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Watching Question Time last night and John Bercow did a far better job of ripping the Tories to bits than Kier Starmer has in his whole time as leader. Keep the Tories off the vaccine narrative and they’re jibbering wrecks.
Andy_W
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Throwing mud now won't stick, save it for a year onwards and it will do 5 times the damage.
Wiseman_Vaughn
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Great - Another politician that made it his mission to overturn the democratic process.
NoMushroom
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Labour didn't accept the Brexit 2016 result, which they still haven't accepted - people who voted Brexit were called all-sorts of names..... well we haven't forgotten how Labour acted in Parliament or the Court Cases by Labour supporters to try and over-turn the result
Even the Guardian had an article about it only a day or so ago:
Until Labour remainers properly accept Brexit, the party will be stuck in limbo | Larry Elliott
Brexit has settled the UK’s relationship with the EU for years to come. Labour’s duty now is to help improve leavers’ lives, says Guardian columnist Larry Elliott
www.theguardian.com
SmallTown
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Of course they are. That's their new tactic. Concentrate on one issue which people care about and they'll willfully ignore all the corruption and lies
Andy_W
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Did you just compare Marcus Rashford's actions to election tactics?Someone should tell Marcus Rashford that's how it works.
Unless it's b***ks...
Wow.
You do realise it's practically impossible for Rashford to not win, and it was a practical certainty he would have some effect.
Tactics swung the Brexit vote, pretty much flipped it massively, as the campaign specifically targeted the group who could go either way, and the other side was massive damage. It's a double effect on those easily swayed, they wasted no time on those they had already convinced or could never convince. The only way to win an election is to flip the exact same people back, and the only way to do it is tactically. Attacking now, only 4 months after Brexit just happened, and during a massive vaccine success will just make you look like an absolute moron who can't see that they "won" brexit and are "winning against the EU" with the vaccine. It might not be reality, but that is how a load of them will see it now.
There are no more magic votes from the left, the people literally don't exist, labour have to get the people they lost because of brexit and from the centre/ right.
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jam69
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Instead of going off on a tangent tell us what the tories have done for the working classesLabour didn't accept the Brexit 2016 result, which they still haven't accepted - people who voted Brexit were called all-sorts of names..... well we haven't forgotten how Labour acted in Parliament or the Court Cases by Labour supporters to try and over-turn the result
Even the Guardian had an article about it only a day or so ago:
Until Labour remainers properly accept Brexit, the party will be stuck in limbo | Larry Elliott
Brexit has settled the UK’s relationship with the EU for years to come. Labour’s duty now is to help improve leavers’ lives, says Guardian columnist Larry Elliott
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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Should never have got rid of Corbyn.
Investment is made in areas which are electorally important. Teesside can no longer be viewed as safe labour which should see some investment in the area hopefully.
Investment is made in areas which are electorally important. Teesside can no longer be viewed as safe labour which should see some investment in the area hopefully.
NoMushroom
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You can't reply because you know its correct - Labour are anti-British, they are anti-working class, they are finished
But to answer your question, you can read the Conservative Manifesto:
wilkos_perm
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I honestly don't know where Labour can go, I think they'll continue to struggle for the short to mid term future
Brexit
Covid jab
The power of right wing media
The age profile of the UK
The decline of labour in Scotland
the perceived "levelling up" whether or not remotely true
Brexit
Covid jab
The power of right wing media
The age profile of the UK
The decline of labour in Scotland
the perceived "levelling up" whether or not remotely true
SmallTown
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How are they anti British and anti working class? Are you that naive that you think the very people who would benefit out of you thinking that wouldn't spread that propaganda?You can't reply because you know its correct - Labour are anti-British, they are anti-working class, they are finished
But to answer your question, you can read the Conservative Manifesto:
I actually give you too much credit by calling you naive. Defending the Tory Party right now is frightening for any working working class person. I worry about what goes through your head. Not that we'll ever know because you'll never be able to tell us why Labour are anti working class. This is because you don't know and you don't know because they aren't.
jam69
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Shall we try again , can you state what the tories have done for the working classes, can't be that hard surely?You can't reply because you know its correct - Labour are anti-British, they are anti-working class, they are finished
But to answer your question, you can read the Conservative Manifesto:
Jonny Ingbar
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It's not that I disagree with this, but what's needed if it's true?
I see a labour leader who is clearly very intelligent, considered and attempting to re-centralise the party.
He calls out the corruption, cronyism and ministerial breaches, but people don't seem to vote on policy, rather a deep rooted sentiment that the country needs grabbing back from the PC mad looney lefties; BLM, the crazy foreigners etc
I'm not sure how they win back the votes, because this all seems to transcend policy and is much deeper rooted than that.
smogontherhine
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I was going to go on a long diatribe about what Labour means to the working class nowadays but whoever this guy is seems to be making some very valid points.... it's like half this thread is made up of posters carrying out the same patronising condescension. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand the Conservatives or their lies and sleaze, but for them taking these once guaranteed Labour votes is like taking sweets from a baby.