Probably doesn't make any statistical difference tbh. There'll be little old black ladies as well as little old white ladies in the US. If you somehow found a way to remove them from your population figures it won't suddenly mean the ratio of black people to white people in America becomes 50:50.
Smog I think what you are getting at is that the police kill more black men than white because they deserve to be killed more often?No, but how about when you look at only those committing armed crime ?
No, but how about when you look at only those committing armed crime ?
This is the States we're talking about. The old white lady could be packing heatFair enough, but an little old lady doing her shopping shouldn't be included in those statistics.
How about the percentage of violent crime committed by each ethnic group, or the percentage of interactions of each ethnic group with the police and then give me the statistics.
This is the States we're talking about. The old white lady could be packing heat
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It's not meant to be offensive, it's what you implied. Have a look at the statistics they are unequivicolLaughing.... "Smog I think what you are getting at is that the police kill more black men than white because they deserve to be killed more often?"
That's a bit offensive, you believe I think they DESERVE to be killed more often... why don't you just come out and say it ?
The only point I'm making is that statistics are always manipulated to fit the narrative and always should be questioned. All sides of the argument do this.
41 Shots by Bruce Springsteen. Written nearly 20 years ago and still as poignant today as it ever was.I'm not sure if you're on about the man who was killed or the soldier who wasn't.
I've just seen the video of the soldier on the news and it's a bit of a catch 22. There's two officers pointing guns at him shouting for him to unbuckle his seatbelt and get out the car. He (very understandably) doesn't want to do anything that moves his hands out of their sight for even a moment. I don't really think you can say there's a definitive answer on what the right thing to do is. It's a very dangerous dilemma.
I think what he was saying is that, when you put yourself in harm's way by committing crime, then you are increasing the chances of being injured by police, or other people. Black people in the US commit more homicide crimes per head than other ethnic groups, so they stand a greater chance of being shot or injured by police trying to catch perpetrators.Smog I think what you are getting at is that the police kill more black men than white because they deserve to be killed more often?
I would respectfully suggest if that's your argument you should really be the one to do the research.
What I can tell you is 1 in 6 black men shot by police since 2015 were unarmed, for white men it was 1 in 18 that were unarmed.
It's really difficult to argue against stats like that.
That may be true but the stats for unarmed shootings demonstrates that crime or no crime black men are being shot at 3 times the rate of white men. If you're unarmed there is not one justification for executing someone and that's what it amounts too.I think what he was saying is that, when you put yourself in harm's way by committing crime, then you are increasing the chances of being injured by police, or other people. Black people in the US commit more homicide crimes per head than other ethnic groups, so they stand a greater chance of being shot or injured by police trying to catch perpetrators.
Just to be clear here, 56% of all US homicides are being committed by a group that is <15% of the US population.
How does a policeman or policewoman know, in what might be just a split second, whether someone is armed or not?If you're unarmed there is not one justification for executing someone and that's what it amounts to.
That's true but doesn't address the inequality when assessing the situation does it?How does a policeman or policewoman know, in what might be just a split second, whether someone is armed or not?
That guy who was killed in Minnesota was wanted for carrying a gun without a license. That's why they tried to arrest him. He may have been carrying the gun when he was stopped by police, or he may not.
It's a hard job for police. Delay too long and you may get shot.
That guy who was killed in Minnesota was wanted for carrying a gun without a license...
Ah... the "air freshener" story... it never ceases to amaze me how gullible some people are....which is a gross misdemeanor.
So you have someone stopped for an air freshener on the mirror (punishable by fine), is suspected of another offence which is punishable by a fine and they still wind up being shot by the Police.
It was confirmed by Brooklyn Center police chief Tim Gannon that the reason for a stop was a traffic violation.Ah... the "air freshener" story... it never ceases to amaze me how gullible some people are.
That's not the sequence of events at all. This is what happened, and this is not disputed....which is a gross misdemeanor.
So you have someone stopped for an air freshener on the mirror (punishable by fine), is suspected of another offence which is punishable by a fine and they still wind up being shot by the Police.