Irish now suspend Astra Zeneca vaccine
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Doom_On_Horseback
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Just watching Sky News and the experts they had on there to share their views on this were genuinely perplexed. One did add a caveat that he doesn't know the data that these countries are using and he also pointed to different genetic make-ups. I think he was scraping the barrel in terms of offering any rationale that he could think of when trying to offer a balanced view.
I did read the following passage and quote from a top Norwegian health expert.
A top Norwegian health expert has explained why the country decided to suspend its use of the AstraZeneca vaccine.
Sara Watle, a senior physician at the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, said use of the vaccine had been put on hold while more information was gathered.
Several people in Norway became very sick days after receiving AstraZeneca jabs, including one person who died of a brain haemorrhage, she said.
In an interview with BBC Radio 4’s World at One programme, Watle said the cases were “young individuals” who had suffered blood clots and bleeding about five to 10 days after vaccination.
“So, we’re looking at very rare events that all came at the same time in our country,” she said.
When asked if these sorts of medical issues happened anyway, she said: “Yes, they absolutely do and that’s why we need to look more into these events.”
Norway was one of the first countries to suspend use of the AstraZeneca vaccine over concerns about possible side effects.
I did read the following passage and quote from a top Norwegian health expert.
A top Norwegian health expert has explained why the country decided to suspend its use of the AstraZeneca vaccine.
Sara Watle, a senior physician at the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, said use of the vaccine had been put on hold while more information was gathered.
Several people in Norway became very sick days after receiving AstraZeneca jabs, including one person who died of a brain haemorrhage, she said.
In an interview with BBC Radio 4’s World at One programme, Watle said the cases were “young individuals” who had suffered blood clots and bleeding about five to 10 days after vaccination.
“So, we’re looking at very rare events that all came at the same time in our country,” she said.
When asked if these sorts of medical issues happened anyway, she said: “Yes, they absolutely do and that’s why we need to look more into these events.”
Norway was one of the first countries to suspend use of the AstraZeneca vaccine over concerns about possible side effects.
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bear66
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All under 50 for the four Norwegian cases.
Confusing interview. Very rare events that happen all the time so we need to look at them?
SmallTown
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Hard to tell. as some of the countries aren't in the EU. Which kind of steps on Zorros point a bit. as does the fact only about a third of EU countries have stopped using the vaccine.
SmallTown
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Maybe Norway replaced them and we didn't notice?
Doom_On_Horseback
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Yes, it's all very confusing. I'm really surprised the way this has snowballed.
ThePrisoner
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Jedi boro
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Now Spain
btw my issue isn’t stopping vaccinations that’s there right.
My issue is why when Pfizer has had more deaths do they single out Astra Zeneca the said same drug they have a serious personal issue with and have had open spats with for months
this is political and its personal.
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btw my issue isn’t stopping vaccinations that’s there right.
My issue is why when Pfizer has had more deaths do they single out Astra Zeneca the said same drug they have a serious personal issue with and have had open spats with for months
this is political and its personal.
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HundredRoom
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EU playing politics with peoples lives How convenient for them having screwed up on vaccinations delivery to be able to fabricate a delay on safety grounds,
The natural occurance of blood clots is less than 2 in 1000,
Blood on their hands.
The natural occurance of blood clots is less than 2 in 1000,
Blood on their hands.
TeaCider
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Certainly looks like a ridiculous decision by multiple countries who should know better.
I very much hope that proves to be the case too, given it benefits nobody for them to be right, and fingers crossed there aren't many deaths caused by halting use of millions of doses of available and effective vaccines.
I very much hope that proves to be the case too, given it benefits nobody for them to be right, and fingers crossed there aren't many deaths caused by halting use of millions of doses of available and effective vaccines.
HundredRoom
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Yes its probably just a coincidence - oh dear
Blf
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My first thought too.
SmallTown
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Why are none EU countries stopping using it then?Now Spain
btw my issue isn’t stopping vaccinations that’s there right.
My issue is why when Pfizer has had more deaths do they single out Astra Zeneca the said same drug they have a serious personal issue with and have had open spats with for months
this is political and its personal.
Europe’s AstraZeneca stockpile mounts as citizens snub jab
Emmanuel Macron forced to extol its virtues after efficacy doubts and adverse publicity damped trust
The Vaccine War: AstraZeneca vs the EU – A Fact-Check
In light of the recent controversy between AstraZeneca and the EU Commission relating to the supply of the Covid-19 vaccine, we have undertaken a fact-check of some of the key statements made by the parties concerned.
EU piles pressure on AstraZeneca over delayed vaccines, reveals details of contract
The European Union is piling pressure on the drugmaker to deliver the Covid vaccine supplies it promised.
I'm sure there will be an element of them being worried/spooked by the response of some of those countries within the EU.
TeaCider
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Suspected rate of clots that German Institute pressed pause on: 7 in 1.6 million.
Rate of blood clots from taking the contraceptive pill: 1 in 1000. Or, with common denominator, 1600 in 1.6 million.
That's ignoring that the clots are likely completely unrelated to the vaccine too.
Rate of blood clots from taking the contraceptive pill: 1 in 1000. Or, with common denominator, 1600 in 1.6 million.
That's ignoring that the clots are likely completely unrelated to the vaccine too.
SmallTown
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I don’t think you’ve got your timelines correct. Norway were one of the first countries to ban it. So I doubt they were spooked by something that didn’t happen, in countries in an organisation to which they don’t belong
HundredRoom
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Every time I bring up counter points of view I get a big Whataboutery bashing but thanks - looks like Laura has done a bit of real journalism for a change
HundredRoom
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I saw pictures of blood clots recently. I was amazed at their size. I was under the illusion they were about the size of a few grains of sugar but some are as big as a tablespoon.
I can't imagine the damage that would do if it got to your brain