Mowbray - You're a WEASEL

Uwefuchs said:
As a defender when a cross is coming over you don't start thinking 'I know there's a risk of catching a defender and giving away a penalty/ injuring him'.

From the cross leaving McNair's boot to the defender clearing it we're probably talking about less than a second in real time.

The ball is there and he attempts to clear it, thats what defenders do 1000s of times in training throughout their lives. Its not a conscious, rational thought process.

Its like when a player sticks out a leg to give away a penalty its a reaction to a player trying to get the ball.
Click to expand...
Don't agree, any player, at probably any level, knows instinctively that such a high foot is potentially going to catch an opponent, especially one into a loaded penalty box.
 
coluka said:
Who has called Mowbray sub human scum? If anyone has then they are out of order. If anyone did why do you appear to imply others do too? What the guy did as a player and what he did as a manager are not relevant to his post match interview where he was incredibly disrespectful to Warnock and the club he holds so ‘dearly’. He could have dealt with it professionally. Nobody as far as I can see expected him to throw Branthwaite under a bus.

His comments about the player in the Liverpool Echo were not spur of the moment they were deliberately chosen words to paint Branthwaite as a harmless kid who wouldn’t and couldn’t hurt a fly whilst making Warnock out to be an ogre. All deliberate deflection bollax to get the press looking elsewhere, he knows the EFL will be looking at things. If he is so slight and timid, why would a hard nut centre half of Mowbrays standing as a player and vast experience as a manager pick him in the first place if he was as described? More mealy-mouthed words from him.

He isn’t the honest northern lad from Saltburn that tells it as it is in my eyes any longer. He has since compounded issues and thrown yet more petrol on the fire with those quotes today. Totally unprofessional. I acknowledge he needs to look after Blackburns interests and his players too. He could have done both whilst acknowledging the incident, its seriousness and they perhaps got away with one, and a line would have been drawn. This myth that ‘he loves‘ the club is farcical. He might support the team from afar maybe, but love..... pathetic to suggest it. His halo has slipped for me anyway.
Click to expand...
How could you possibly interpret Mowbray's comments and come up with a post like that? Superfluous hyperbole. Cream crackers our fans sometimes.
 
This board is getting worse by the day

I won't add anything that's already been said other than Mogga is & always will be a legend & will always be welcomed back to the Riverside with open arms, some of the comments on here are spiteful & out of order

There are only 2 people to blame, the ref & linesman
 
Guys may i suggest we all agree to disagree . I’m disappointed at Mogga which is probably the appropriate word but we all make mistakes . I’d imagine his obtuse response is fuelled by Warno biting his heels the remainder of the game which likely wound him up .

Its happened , draw a line on it and move on .

ps were still knocking on the play off door 👍
 
Erimus74 said:
This board is getting worse by the day

I won't add anything that's already been said other than Mogga is & always will be a legend & will always be welcomed back to the Riverside with open arms, some of the comments on here are spiteful & out of order

There are only 2 people to blame, the ref & linesman
Click to expand...
It was Mowbray the man and leader that got him his affection, much more than his playing ability.
Similarly he acted with dignity throughout his ultimately disappointing time as manager.

Mowbray's captaincy from 86 will rightly never be forgotten, but sadly nor will his comments over the last 24 hours for a lot of people.
He handled it badly and compounded it after having time to reflect.

Souness will always be a legend to me, but it appears many others did not forgive him for the way he went to Liverpool. I just didn't see the problem at all, given the Club's complete lack of ambition at the time.
Merson is still a legend to some, but I can't abide him for the lies he told on leaving the club.
I guess we all have different heroes and reasons why.
 
'This board gets worse by the day'. How predictable from the poster who won't have a word said about any ex player from a certain era.

Imagine if Pulis had behaved liked Mowbray yesterday.
 
Boro.jpeg

Nothing more to add, he had seen it, his reaction says everything to me. Whether he laughs at Warnock's rant or not, he's just seen a fellow professional nearly lose an eye and and an opposition manager rightly angry about it and he sits smirking. Not for me - nope.
 
Doriva's Shinnies said:
View attachment 12814

Nothing more to add, he had seen it, his reaction says everything to me. Whether he laughs at Warnock's rant or not, he's just seen a fellow professional nearly lose an eye and and an opposition manager rightly angry about it and he sits smirking. Not for me - nope.
Click to expand...
This photo proves absolutely nothing whatsoever unless you can get into Mowbray's mind in that second.
Am really uncomfortable about this thread - the villain is the referee not Mowbray. The player did not intend to do harm but it was an appalling challenge. The sort of thing Mido was once sent off for Boro. Unintentional but very dangerous. I cannot think of an excuse for the officials unless they were not watching the actual game. But Mowbray is not our enemy.
This thread is on a website named in honour of a true Boro all time great, Tony Mowbray and his manager Bruce Rioch. That was after our successful rebirth as a club that the fanzine drew its inspiration. It was all about respecting an achievement, exemplified by a captain who was all about respect. That achievement will rightly be remembered long after the reaction of some Boro fans.
 
Doriva's Shinnies said:
View attachment 12814

Nothing more to add, he had seen it, his reaction says everything to me. Whether he laughs at Warnock's rant or not, he's just seen a fellow professional nearly lose an eye and and an opposition manager rightly angry about it and he sits smirking. Not for me - nope.
Click to expand...
rob_fmttm said:
This photo proves absolutely nothing whatsoever unless you can get into Mowbray's mind in that second.
Am really uncomfortable about this thread - the villain is the referee not Mowbray. The player did not intend to do harm but it was an appalling challenge. The sort of thing Mido was once sent off for Boro. Unintentional but very dangerous. I cannot think of an excuse for the officials unless they were not watching the actual game. But Mowbray is not our enemy.
This thread is on a website named in honour of a true Boro all time great, Tony Mowbray and his manager Bruce Rioch. That was after our successful rebirth as a club that the fanzine drew its inspiration. It was all about respecting an achievement, exemplified by a captain who was all about respect. That achievement will rightly be remembered long after the reaction of some Boro fans.
Click to expand...
nothing more to say . Spot on Rob
 
Last edited:
rob_fmttm said:
This photo proves absolutely nothing whatsoever unless you can get into Mowbray's mind in that second.
Am really uncomfortable about this thread - the villain is the referee not Mowbray. The player did not intend to do harm but it was an appalling challenge. The sort of thing Mido was once sent off for Boro. Unintentional but very dangerous. I cannot think of an excuse for the officials unless they were not watching the actual game. But Mowbray is not our enemy.
This thread is on a website named in honour of a true Boro all time great, Tony Mowbray and his manager Bruce Rioch. That was after our successful rebirth as a club that the fanzine drew its inspiration. It was all about respecting an achievement, exemplified by a captain who was all about respect. That achievement will rightly be remembered long after the reaction of some Boro fans.
Click to expand...
Were you content and happy with his post match interview then Rob?

Were you happy how he tried to belittle our manager?

Do you believe that Mowbray can do NO wrong?

Times change, people change, Yes he was doing his job, nobody criticises him for that, He could and should have handled it better as I and Boromart have explained how. Are we really not able to fairly criticise decisions and comments.

We all know the ref and linesman are the villains of the piece, but haway man, lets not make him beyond criticism when it is merited.

Edit: Some of us fans you criticised were people that helped the club with its successful rebirth by paying our money, showing our devotion, travelling all over the country cheering them on, The fans at that time were every bit as legendary in my eyes and our views are surely worthy of comment, we are still here, Mogga isn’t
 
Last edited:
Londons_Moggie said:
Not sure that's what he meant by that. Warnock hasn't had any opportunity to get us in the Prem given he took over at the end of last season and we were on the verge of relegation and this season has months to go
Click to expand...

That's as maybe but he certainly wasn't giving warnock any credit for getting us in and around the play offs this season. Which as you have pointed out given there is a chunk of the season to go and where we were last season is a bit ridiculous - particularly when he's been very complementary in the past.

Like I say read the mowbray stuff from last season in the gazette and compare it to this season (over both games) and there is a difference in tone. Might be nout in it, but its a bit weird.
 
For me what makes it worse is he didn't have a nice thing to say about the club in the away tie either.

People suggesting that it's a professional thing, look at how Warnock talks about his previous roles and his love for previous teams. If anything it makes him closer with the fans of his current club.
 
coluka said:
Were you content and happy with his post match interview then Rob?

Were you happy how he tried to belittle our manager?

Do you believe that Mowbray can do NO wrong?

Times change, people change, Yes he was doing his job, nobody criticises him for that, He could and should have handled it better as I and Boromart have explained how. Are we really not able to fairly criticise decisions and comments.

We all know the ref and linesman are the villains of the piece, but haway man, lets not make him beyond criticism when it is merited.

Edit: Some of us fans you criticised were people that helped the club with its successful rebirth by paying our money, showing our devotion, travelling all over the country cheering them on, The fans at that time were every bit as legendary in my eyes and our views are surely worthy of comment, we are still here, Mogga isn’t
Click to expand...
Coluka I absolutely understand your disappointment here and I always cherish your opinions and posts , however my point as I made earlier is that ok in retrospect I’m sure he would realise he was somewhat clumsy with his after match response and I’m sure Warnock probably irritated him ( understandable from NW ) .
Again I reiterate IMHO he certainly doesn’t deserve to be called a ‘ weasel ‘ . Certainly not by a Boro tongue .
 
Last edited:
Alvez_48 said:
For me what makes it worse is he didn't have a nice thing to say about the club in the away tie either.

People suggesting that it's a professional thing, look at how Warnock talks about his previous roles and his love for previous teams. If anything it makes him closer with the fans of his current club.
Click to expand...

Oh come on, this is getting silly now. Mowbray has spent the best part of his managerial career talking about his affection for our area and the club.

The lengths some people will go to, to win a petty argument on here.
 
rob_fmttm said:
This photo proves absolutely nothing whatsoever unless you can get into Mowbray's mind in that second.
Am really uncomfortable about this thread - the villain is the referee not Mowbray. The player did not intend to do harm but it was an appalling challenge. The sort of thing Mido was once sent off for Boro. Unintentional but very dangerous. I cannot think of an excuse for the officials unless they were not watching the actual game. But Mowbray is not our enemy.
This thread is on a website named in honour of a true Boro all time great, Tony Mowbray and his manager Bruce Rioch. That was after our successful rebirth as a club that the fanzine drew its inspiration. It was all about respecting an achievement, exemplified by a captain who was all about respect. That achievement will rightly be remembered long after the reaction of some Boro fans.
Click to expand...
Well said Rob.
 
Borobarmy said:
Coluka I absolutely understand your disappointment here and I cherish your opinions and posts , however my point I made earlier is that ok in retrospect I’m sure he would realise he was somewhat clumsy . Again I reiterate he certainly doesn’t deserve to be called a ‘ weasel ‘ . Certainly not by a Boro tongue .
Click to expand...
No problem mate. I said earlier when someone was claiming he was being called sub human scum. Ridiculous and out of order, nobody did. I have referred to his comments as mealy-mouthed. I have defended his right to defend his player, team and club. It is his words and manner in doing so that upset me. Had he have come out and said as Boromart and I suggested earlier then I‘d forgive him, unfortunately he has chosen to compound it in the Liverpool Echo. We all know the lad never meant to cause the harm, but a high boot is reckless, all the pundits have said so. Even Noel Whelan said so also not just the sky pundits. The refs were the villains by failing to deal with it correctly. Mowbray dealt with it poorly and his words were ill thought through.

Mogga was a personal hero, a legend, but as I said elsewhere, once earned, and he earned that status, you need to maintain it too. He chose his words and his reaction and by compounding again, it has tarnished that halo. He had no call to attempt to belittle Neil as he did in that interview either. I have said how he could have defended his player whilst drawing a line under the furore, he chose a different path and in doing so has upset quite a few fair minded and good posters on here.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top