Piccadilly Day Tripper
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yeah, but imagine how good the food at half time would be. what a missed opportunity.Said he didn't want a Chinese flag flying at the Riverside....
yeah, but imagine how good the food at half time would be. what a missed opportunity.Said he didn't want a Chinese flag flying at the Riverside....
In this day and age, I think they and their agents would find out before the club unfortunately, if not even instigated by the agentsIf 20m was offered for Rav, Hackney or Lath we would first ask them do they want to stay, keep them involved in the process, because they'll find out through agents
hard to say, given the way the game has gone over the last 30 years.If an English manager was given the resources that Pep or Klopp was, do you think you'd be able to make that statement?
It was interesting though, someone asked about Orta, basically giving Gibson the chance to criticise him but he spoke quite highly of him including his encylopaedic knowledge of players.I’d like to think with the better structure in place we have now, with Scott etc, bringing a foreign coach in might not end in a similar way to how Gibson described with Karanka.
I think one of the main problems with that era was Victor Orta.
Gibson doesn't want that heatIt was interesting though, someone asked about Orta, basically giving Gibson the chance to criticise him but he spoke quite highly of him including his encylopaedic knowledge of players.
It should be relative, but then again he should also have been capable of winning the CL with Chelsea if that is the case. It’s only 3 years since they actually WERE European champions.It doesn't sound daft, success should always be relative
That’s interesting.It was interesting though, someone asked about Orta, basically giving Gibson the chance to criticise him but he spoke quite highly of him including his encylopaedic knowledge of players.
I’m not really suggesting it’s some kind of gross injustice, but however you look at it, an Englishman has never won the PL or CL. I guess some people care more about that than others, but I’d probably say I’d like an Englishman (mostly) to manage England and it would be better if we developed some genuine candidates for it.The British managers got chance after chance after chance with a load of established Premier League clubs.
Allardyce, Moyes, Pulis, Redknapp, Pardew, Hughes, Souness, Hodgson, Rodgers, Bruce and Hughton at Bolton, Everton, West Ham, Southampton, Charlton, Blackburn, Spurs, Southampton, Portsmouth, West Brom, Newcastle, Liverpool, Fulham, Crystal Palace and Stoke. They’ve all had at least two of those managers in charge at some point, if not three. That’s a LOT of appointments and chances.
Then you have Lampard and Gerrard getting jobs well beyond their level of capability purely because of their reputation as players. You have Parker, Potter and O’Neil. McClaren. Nathan Jones. Tim Sherwood. Paul Lambert. Stuart Pearce. What happened when most of these people were given opportunities?
You have those who bring teams up like Rob Edwards, Nigel Pearson, Dean Smith, Neil Warnock, Steve Cooper, Eddie Howe got a chance at a ‘big’ club after a great job at Bournemouth. Chris Wilder. There’s loads and loads. The national team manager is English and taken the team to a World Cup semi-final and European Championships final. There are loads of younger coaches and managers throughout the leagues working their way up. If someone like Russell Martin or Kieran McKenna or even Michael Carrick takes their team up and keeps them up then they will be talked about for ‘bigger’ jobs.
Some of those I’ve listed aren’t English obviously but I think the narrative that British managers don’t get opportunities is hugely overblown. The very wealthiest clubs can go and get whoever they want, from wherever they want. Who from that list above are you going to choose ahead of the appointments made by those clubs in recent years?
The number of foreign managers, coaches and backroom staff just reflects the make up of the teams imo. I think bigger issue is why there is such a lack of BAME managers, coaches and directors in British football.
Yeah I used it as shorthand tbh.I’m not really suggesting it’s some kind of gross injustice, but however you look at it, an Englishman has never won the PL or CL. I guess some people care more about that than others, but I’d probably say I’d like an Englishman (mostly) to manage England and it would be better if we developed some genuine candidates for it.
Mart may be right about the British attitude towards intelligence/intellectualism/class etc. That may even feed into the BAME debate too. (Btw I’m only saying “BAME” cos you did. It’s not the “correct” term anymore I don’t think. )
This has absolutely done me for some reason- Spoke of feeling let down by Monk and described him as being a "bag of sh*te".
He was pretty blunt at times with some of his comments.This has absolutely done me for some reason
Yeah that ties in with him saying how he'd felt confident we would go straight back up that 97/98 season, but didn't have the same confidence after our last relegation.My understanding was he liked and likes both Robson & karanka as people but when we went down with Robbo he said they stayed unified as a club & went back up whereas karanka responded to the pressure by blaming everyone else players back room staff etc. which fits with him flouncing off in training and going awol at that away game that time.
My understanding was he liked and likes both Robson & karanka as people but when we went down with Robbo he said they stayed unified as a club & went back up whereas karanka responded to the pressure by blaming everyone else players back room staff etc. which fits with him flouncing off in training and going awol at that away game that time.
Graham Fordy signed off on it.Gibson doesn't like the club badge redesign. Leaving to one side the question of who the hell signed off on it then if he didn't like it, it has to be a good indication it's going and we'll get something new!