Bernies_quiff
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The things doe people get worked up over, clearly it’s to differentiate between an access card and a season card, end of.
Exactly this,The things doe people get worked up over, clearly it’s to differentiate between an access card and a season card, end of.
As someone who is very close to this issue I can try and explain. Not all disabilities are visible and often people with invisible disabilities don’t want anyone to know. It’s upsetting to them. This is a means by which their status is being advertised. The card is black and it is different. It’s a bad idea.
You might not but there is a chance that someone does but most importantly the person with the disability now has a fear that it might be noticed.I don’t want to dispute your take on this as you say it’s an issue close to you, but how does this advertise the person? I personally wouldn’t notice someone brandishing it unless they came up and told me or were waving it about in front of me at the turnstile?
To be fair, I’m not entirely sure why it needs to be an obviously different colour?
Does the access card work the same way as a season card, in that you just present it at the turnstile or do you have to show it to a steward to gain access?
I’m not sure there’s much of an issue here? I get that singling someone with a disability is discriminatory but who will even notice this?
The fact there are areas for people in wheel chairs already identifies most people with access issues…
I may be being naive as I’m not in need of assistance…
Do the access cards belong to the person on a disability card or do they belong to the assistant and are they transferable to allow anyone to help those requiring assistance?
Thanks for ending it Bernie but I'm unending it. Everyone, despite Bernie's ending of it, we can all discuss it again until someone else says end of.The things doe people get worked up over, clearly it’s to differentiate between an access card and a season card, end of.
You obviously had a queue of better things to do with your time. Oh wait, you're back on here reading this reply as we speakExactly this,
none of the whiners will even know anyone that uses one of these cards,
just the same old people who are sat looking on this site 24/7 with nowt better to do with their lives
Its a bit like the clampdown on concession ST, lots of late 20`s and older using them, its upset a lot of people now they have stopped it happening. Should the club do it, and is it wrong of them ?.
It’s just one more issue that could needlessly cause anxiety. Football is escapism but adding more labels is essentially another issue that makes disabled people feel different. It’s hard to fathom if you’re not in their shoes so I can understand why people can feel it’s a nonissue but sadly to many neurodivergent children (or even adults) this could be a big deal. It’s sad imo.I don’t want to dispute your take on this as you say it’s an issue close to you, but how does this advertise the person? I personally wouldn’t notice someone brandishing it unless they came up and told me or were waving it about in front of me at the turnstile?
To be fair, I’m not entirely sure why it needs to be an obviously different colour?
This. It's the extra anxiety at being further identified as different. Utterly thoughtless and crass. I will wear a t shirt next time I'm out with my daughter that says 'I'm with the autistic child'. To an anxious person having something that identifies them as different is the worst possible thing to do.It’s just one more issue that could needlessly cause anxiety. Football is escapism but adding more labels is essentially another issue that makes disabled people feel different. It’s hard to fathom if you’re not in their shoes so I can understand why people can feel it’s a nonissue but sadly to many neurodivergent children (or even adults) this could be a big deal. It’s sad imo.
It's a general problem with the game, isn't it? There's a letter in the latest When Saturday Comes from a guy who tried to attend our League Cup match at Huddersfield earlier in the season with his brother. They rolled up at the ticket office and were denied a ticket because they weren't from the area and the Boro end was sold out. They are both in their 70s and just fancied watching a game of football. There's another letter in this week's Non-League Paper about away fans only being able to buy tickets on line and in advance if they want to go to a game at Banbury. Which is Level Six in the pyramid. And I myself failed to get a ticket for Harrogate Town's game on Boxing Day last as I wasn't able to go through the relevant hoops to show I wasn't a Grimsby Town supporter ffs. It's ludicrous.Another thread that highlights the number of absolutely stupid complexities clubs have concocted to make watching a football match as difficult as possible.
Different coloured cards and tickets, points-based systems, categorised pricing, digital ticketing, booking fees, admin fees, arbitrary deadlines for buying season tickets, early bird prices… I’m sure there will be other ‘initiatives’ and requirements I’ve missed.
All this while charging a £19 - plus a £1.50 booking fee - for kids to get into the north stand for the Southampton game. That would be £54 for an adult and a kid to go and watch Boro play a second division fixture.
All of this is absolutely ludicrous IMO.