YouGov Poll - 33 Point lead!

Corbyn only made the candidates leadership list with minutes to spare because some mp’s just wanted a wider representation of elements within the party. He came down from 100/1 to 20/1, still a long behind the main contenders. Nobody gave him a chance…he was just supposed to be a makeweight. It was never supposed to happen
Just goes to show how well the politicians know their party membership.
 
Laughing said:
I think he should have apologised then made the wider point.
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Apologise for what exactly?

The rampant antisemitism in the Labour party that wasn't there?

Do you not understand why they wanted that apology on the record?

Can you please apologise for being a massive homophobe? I know you're not one but could you apologise anyway just so we have it on record that you've apologised for it?
 
LessoftheLip said:
A particular area of interest for me. Corbyn as LOTO actually voted against the renewal of Trident and it is reported, with Michael Eavis as the source, that he disclosed to Eavis that he would 'get rid' of Trident as soon as he could if he became PM.
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And if the Labour party voted at conference to scrap Trident then he'd have been right to pursue it as party policy. You know he wouldn't have acted unilaterally to try and ditch it and you also know it wouldn't have gotten through parliament on a whim. It's just another convenient excuse to castigate Corbyn for something he didn't do.

Laughing said:
He was an awful labour leader.
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Laughing said:
Corbyn was an awful politician and the worse leader of the labour party...
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Laughing said:
Corbyn was just a poor politician.
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You keep spamming this and yet you ignored my response last time you asked me to list his leadership qualities, so I'll throw it back. List your top five leadership qualities and then show how they apply to Starmer and not Corbyn.

I'll give you a quick starter: Getting people to follow your vision.

Corbyn - increased the labour memberhip to make it the largest party in Europe with over half a million members.
Starmer - lost over a third of Labour party members since becoming leader
 
Scrote said:
And if the Labour party voted at conference to scrap Trident then he'd have been right to pursue it as party policy. You know he wouldn't have acted unilaterally to try and ditch it and you also know it wouldn't have gotten through parliament on a whim. It's just another convenient excuse to castigate Corbyn for something he didn't do.
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Everything I've said is on public record. No ifs, whys, spin or speculation. I never once suggested he would act unilaterally but he is reported as saying he would get rid of it as soon as he could. Everything you've said there is just defensive fluff, as per usual.
 
Scrote said:
And if the Labour party voted at conference to scrap Trident then he'd have been right to pursue it as party policy. You know he wouldn't have acted unilaterally to try and ditch it and you also know it wouldn't have gotten through parliament on a whim. It's just another convenient excuse to castigate Corbyn for something he didn't do.




You keep spamming this and yet you ignored my response last time you asked me to list his leadership qualities, so I'll throw it back. List your top five leadership qualities and then show how they apply to Starmer and not Corbyn.

I'll give you a quick starter: Getting people to follow your vision.

Corbyn - increased the labour memberhip to make it the largest party in Europe with over half a million members.
Starmer - lost over a third of Labour party members since becoming leader
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Corbyn failed at 2 General elections. I don't need to justify my opinion the electorate agrees and that is All that matters.

The ehrc's report makes several damming conclusions on anti-semitism and the way it was handled. You may not agree, I don't really care.

Honestly round and round in circles.
 
Laughing said:
I don't need to justify my opinion the electorate agrees and that is All that matters.
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That is one of the most ridiculous things that's been posted on the board with reference to politics.

Brexit was a great idea because the electorate agrees.

Thatcherism was wonderful because the electorate agrees.

The fact that the electorate returned Corbyn as an MP multiple times in the same seat must, by your logic, make him a good politician.
 
MolteniArcore said:
I thought there had been a glut of new polls out with all these extra posts on the thread… but sadly not. Just the same arguments we’ve had on hundreds of others.
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Post some new polls if you want to Molteni. It's really strange to keep pining for people not to discuss things on a message board.
 
Scrote said:
That is one of the most ridiculous things that's been posted on the board with reference to politics.

Brexit was a great idea because the electorate agrees.

Thatcherism was wonderful because the electorate agrees.

The fact that the electorate returned Corbyn as an MP multiple times in the same seat must, by your logic, make him a good politician.
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He may be a decent MP, I don't live in Islington so I can't speak intelligently about that. he was a crap leader though.
 
Laughing said:
He may be a decent MP, I don't live in Islington so I can't speak intelligently about that. he was a crap leader though.
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As you won't specify the other leadership qualities you're basing your opinion on, the only definition of good leadership you've given is winning an election.

So you think Margaret Thatcher was a good leader.

You think Donald Trump was/is a good leader.

I disagree.
 
Scrote said:
As you won't specify the other leadership qualities you're basing your opinion on, the only definition of good leadership you've given is winning an election.

So you think Margaret Thatcher was a good leader.

You think Donald Trump was/is a good leader.

I disagree.
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The ONLY measure that means anything in the real world is winning elections something Corbyn was awful at. I like to deal in facts not wishes and horses.
 
Laughing said:
The ONLY measure that means anything in the real world is winning elections something Corbyn was awful at. I like to deal in facts not wishes and horses.
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Why have you brought horses into this? You f*cking know that my people have a problem with horses. You did that on purpose just to annoy me.
 
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