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[TeessideCleveland]

They are not Labour people that’s why they slag off Starmer because he is doing well…for Labour.

Lets be honest they say they don't like the Tories, but the last thing they want is Labour winning - and spend far more time portraying Starmer etc as the devil than criticising any Tory

 

[Scrote]

It’s as good a checklist as any that exists and has been accepted as the international standard, but you double down on claiming a man who shows no signs of psychopathy as being a psychopath purely because you don’t like him

Show me where I've called Starmer a psychopath.

 

[BoroMart]

It’s as good a checklist as any that exists and has been accepted as the international standard, but you double down on claiming a man who shows no signs of psychopathy as being a psychopath purely because you don’t like him

In fact reading scrotes post again, the quote he has given states that “the diagnostic category psychopath should be rejected firmly”…..I.e. it shouldn’t exist. So scrote has used a quote that psychopath isn’t a thing, as a way of doubling down on “Starmer is a psychopath”……that really isn’t the win he thought it was

 

[BoroMart]

Show me where I've called Starmer a psychopath.

So who are you calling a psychopath because you called someone one….

 

[Scrote]

Lets be honest they say they don't like the Tories, but the last thing they want is Labour winning - and spend far more time portraying Starmer etc as the devil than criticising any Tory

I don't waste time criticising the Tories as we're all generally in agreement that they are appalling and are set to be replaced.

My problems are with a Labour party that is positioning itself into the vacuum left behind by the "centre-right to right" that has been abandoned by the current Tory party rather than using the opportunity presented to shift the narrative and then the country further to the left (perhaps even to the centre-left of Blair - despite that being much too far right, economically, for my taste).

 

[Scrote]

In fact reading scrotes post again, the quote he has given states that “the diagnostic category psychopath should be rejected firmly”…..I.e. it shouldn’t exist. So scrote has used a quote that psychopath isn’t a thing, as a way of doubling down on “Starmer is a psychopath”……that really isn’t the win he thought it was

So who are you calling a psychopath because you called someone one….

Your doubling down on accusing me of calling Starmer a psychopath despite not being able to find a shred of evidence isn't the win you thought it was...

 

[SuperStu]

Scrotes a good poster and been on here years.

You lot come across very insecure in your politics the way you go straight on the personal attacks.

 

[TeessideCleveland]

Scrotes a good poster and been on here years.

You lot come across very insecure in your politics the way you go straight on the personal attacks.

In my post I wasn't actually meaning Scrote personally - I said 'they' meaning the anti-Starmer people in general

 

[BoroMart]

Your doubling down on accusing me of calling Starmer a psychopath despite not being able to find a shred of evidence isn't the win you thought it was...

So WHO were you calling a psychopath, you can clear it up very easily…

 

[BoroMart]

Come on buddy no need to for the avoidance…it’s almost like you are stalling to make a plausible alternative answer

 

[BoroMart]

Scrotes a good poster and been on here years.

You lot come across very insecure in your politics the way you go straight on the personal attacks.

He usually is but looses all sense of rationailty when it comes to Starmer

 

[Scrote]

So WHO were you calling a psychopath, you can clear it up very easily…

Why don't you just read the posts you were quite clearly responding to without having actually read in the first place?

Too quick trying to jump on something with a ridiculously pedantic reference to medical/psychological definitions of words that are clearly being used in a more general, common-use, sense.

 

[Scrote]

He usually is but looses all sense of rationailty when it comes to Starmer

It was LessoftheLip who brought Starmer into it.

Maybe because he loses all sense of rationality when it comes to anything that he thinks might involve Starmer?

You'd have to ask him. I neither know, nor care.

 

[BoroMart]

Why don't you just read the posts you were quite clearly responding to without having actually read in the first place?

Too quick trying to jump on something with a ridiculously pedantic reference to medical/psychological definitions of words that are clearly being used in a more general, common-use, sense.

Why don’t you stop playing silly avoidance games and just state who you were calling a psychopath?

There’s nothing pedantic about actually understanding the definition.

Anyway, enjoy your avoidance, I see right through it

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

In my post I wasn't actually meaning Scrote personally - I said 'they' meaning the anti-Starmer people in general

Labour members are waiting for policies so that we can knock on doors with something positive to argue for, not simply knocking this appalling government.

Once we actually get some meat on the bone we can make a decision as to what the leadership is all about.

We want rid of the Tories, of course we do, there's a lot of us want their policies replacing with something decent, not simply a change of colour.

 

[SuperStu]

So WHO were you calling a psychopath, you can clear it up very easily…

Come on buddy no need to for the avoidance…it’s almost like you are stalling to make a plausible alternative answer

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Have you tried watching the clip in the video?

"As I said, I think he just sets himself homework and then completes it, and ticks it off"

Do you think, like the woman in the video seems to, that this is a desirable quality in someone to be the PM of the country? Bullsh*tting his way through whatever he needs to say to get through the next 5 minutes?

 

[BoroMart]

Have you tried watching the clip in the video?

"As I said, I think he just sets himself homework and then completes it, and ticks it off"

Do you think, like the woman in the video seems to, that this is a desirable quality in someone to be the PM of the country? Bullsh*tting his way through whatever he needs to say to get through the next 5 minutes?

I’ve watched the video.

Any Labour leader will be fighting against a right wing compliant media, the Labour leader will always have to avoid the media traps or lose votes be it Corbyn more to the left or Starmer more centrist.

Regarding this woman’s comments, I don’t agree with them so it’s pointless debating if that’s desirable in a Pm, because it doesn’t really apply.

 

[BoroMart]

Labour members are waiting for policies so that we can knock on doors with something positive to argue for, not simply knocking this appalling government.

Once we actually get some meat on the bone we can make a decision as to what the leadership is all about.

We want rid of the Tories, of course we do, there's a lot of us want their policies replacing with something decent, not simply a change of colour.

That’s a fair summary, and speculating on the policies until we are in an election cycle is fairly pointless right now. We know the country is going to be in a real sorry state when it’s handed over and it’s gonna take a decade to restore some of the services that have been decimated

 

[Scrote]

Why don’t you stop playing silly avoidance games and just state who you were calling a psychopath?

There’s nothing pedantic about actually understanding the definition.

Anyway, enjoy your avoidance, I see right through it

I've clearly stated who I was referring to in an earlier post.

It's also very clear how the statement I made was being used, from a colloquial context.

 

[BoroMart]

I've clearly stated who I was referring to in an earlier post.

It's also very clear how the statement I made was being used, from a colloquial context.

Just say it then because I must have missed it…