Wow. Latest Hartlepool polling...

TeaCider

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It's a fairly small sample size, so we've no idea how representative it really is.

Boris Johnson has been playing down the prospect of a Tory gain amongst his own, so it may seem less promising for them on the ground.
 

WeeGord

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I think most people know that it doesn't really matter who gets elected. The people that need help aren't going to get it either way.
This from a 'potential Labour voter' again? I noticed you didn't reply to my last message a few days ago when I pulled you up on this ridiculous idea that you're a potential Labour voter when all you ever do is try to give false equivalence between Labour and the Tories and conveniently ignore any evidence put before you.

To suggest that Paul Williams wouldn't be a better, more pro-active and caring MP for Hartlepool than the Tory candidate that has barely even heard of Hartlepol is almost as crazy as you continually pretending you're a former Labour and potentially future Labour voter.
 

GazC_MFC

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I think most people know that it doesn't really matter who gets elected. The people that need help aren't going to get it either way.
Sure start under Blair’s government as previous evidence, Corbyn’s policies as what could have been
 

joeydiaz

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All the bookies have got the Tories as firm favourite to take the seat now, a fiver with Paddy Power would get you £6.11 back with the Conservatives and £18.75 back if you were to back Labour. Crazy
 

asredastheycome

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I was amazed to see Boris on TV in Seaton Carew. When asking people's voting intentions not one person said "Not for your lot you tw@t" or was it judicious editing by Sky.
 

bear66

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All the bookies have got the Tories as firm favourite to take the seat now, a fiver with Paddy Power would get you £6.11 back with the Conservatives and £18.75 back if you were to back Labour. Crazy
Labour are the better bet for Hartlepool.
 

Jonny Ingbar

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Given Hartlepool is one if the strongest Brexit areas in the country and the last election result there, the poll results shouldn't be surprising.

What does surprise me, although maybe it shouldn't, is how ignorant of the facts and swayed by the Brexit lie people are.

It's a very sad situation, because the most in need will suffer more because of it.
 

InglebyUTB

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Good article from Unherd - How the Left Lost Hartlpool
"It is pitiful that no native pro-Brexit Labour candidate from a town with 100,000 residents could be found. Perhaps they were not sought. Labour’s man, Paul Williams, was born in Canterbury, educated in Cambridgeshire, worked in Stockton-on-Tees where he was an MP 2017-19, and was a Remainer, while 69.6% of this constituency voted to leave.

A former magistrate describes the main candidates: “One [Mortimer] is north Yorkshire and the other one [Williams] was the MP for Stockton. He didn’t represent the people of Stockton when they wanted to vote for Brexit [by 61.7%] so how can you trust him? He ignored the electorate so I wouldn’t vote for him if he was the only person standing. I’d tear my vote up. I really would”."

I'm a Labour member who knocked on doors for Paul in the GE2019, but I get this. It was so predictable and so avoidable.

Others highlighted it too but were dismissed. As the article says Labour are the establishment in Hartlepool, so there Paul is campaigning with Peter Mandelson who personifies the Remain Establishment.

I don't agree with Pog on Starmer (he needs more time) but he highlighted this on another thread which I've tried to search for and see him and the entire thread have been deleted from the forum.
 

Wiseman_Vaughn

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"Labour’s man, Paul Williams, was born in Canterbury, educated in Cambridgeshire, worked in Stockton-on-Tees where he was an MP 2017-19, and was a Remainer, while 69.6% of this constituency voted to leave."

Says it all really! It's not a case of the people leaving Labour - more a case of Labour leaving the people.
 
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