Worst Excess Deaths in UK since WW2

[newusername]

2020 is in the middle of the road in terms of overall mortality

re: Mortality, do you mean mortality rate?

 

[FabioPorkpie]

It's good to see that your stance has changed, good for you

I revisited the controversial thread I started a good few weeks ago to acknowledge that Yeadon is talking utter drivel. The main bit that interested me regarding his commentary, was his prediction that the main damage had been done and we would just get localised outbreaks the further away from the epicentre of the original epidemic, ie London. This seemed plausible and I was interested to see how it played out, as he said we’d be able to tell if he’s got it wrong IF cases and deaths rises significantly in London. He said they wouldn’t. Obviously he was completely wrong, by his own metric, so that was that. He then ignored that and went proper right wing conspiracy sharing all manner of misinformation and half-data. He’s vile but like so many professional conspiracy theorists and contrarian voices, he started off with something that could be plausible to get attention and then spun a web of deceit from there.
I still think there is an issue with PCR false positives, but nowhere near the level to which has been claimed by Yeadon, Heneghan etc and in the grand scheme of things it is negligible compared to the issue with LFT false negatives, which is a far more serious problem.

I’ve been consistent on here in being very dismissive of the ridiculous Great Barrington Distraction, Gupta, the case for Sweden, and very dubious of Heneghan. He has since gone very very quiet for some reason. Not quite an admission on his part of having got it all completely wrong, but close enough imo.
It really was just Yeadon’s predictions about how the pandemic would play out that interested me the most (along with PCR false positives) because there was some way to actually measure whether he was correct, and it turns out he really, really wasn’t. When that was apparent, I revisited that thread and said as much.
As for Cummins, he’s just a self publicising salesman who I’ve never had any time for.

I should have trusted my gut and dismissed Yeadon from the outset given the only platform that would entertain him was right wing scum like Toby Young. I acknowledged that I was uncomfortable with that in the first post of that thread but wanted to see whether I was wrong to dismiss a view just because of where it is promoted.... Lesson learned!

 

[bear66]

I revisited the controversial thread I started a good few weeks ago to acknowledge that Yeadon is talking utter drivel. The main bit that interested me regarding his commentary, was his prediction that the main damage had been done and we would just get localised outbreaks the further away from the epicentre of the original epidemic, ie London. This seemed plausible and I was interested to see how it played out, as he said we’d be able to tell if he’s got it wrong IF cases and deaths rises significantly in London. He said they wouldn’t. Obviously he was completely wrong, by his own metric, so that was that. He then ignored that and went proper right wing conspiracy sharing all manner of misinformation and half-data. He’s vile but like so many professional conspiracy theorists and contrarian voices, he started off with something that could be plausible to get attention and then spun a web of deceit from there.
I still think there is an issue with PCR false positives, but nowhere near the level to which has been claimed by Yeadon, Heneghan etc and in the grand scheme of things it is negligible compared to the issue with LFT false negatives, which is a far more serious problem.

I’ve been consistent on here in being very dismissive of the ridiculous Great Barrington Distraction, Gupta, the case for Sweden, and very dubious of Heneghan. He has since gone very very quiet for some reason. Not quite an admission on his part of having got it all completely wrong, but close enough imo.
It really was just Yeadon’s predictions about how the pandemic would play out that interested me the most (along with PCR false positives) because there was some way to actually measure whether he was correct, and it turns out he really, really wasn’t. When that was apparent, I revisited that thread and said as much.
As for Cummins, he’s just a self publicising salesman who I’ve never had any time for.

I should have trusted my gut and dismissed Yeadon from the outset given the only platform that would entertain him was right wing scum like Toby Young. I acknowledged that I was uncomfortable with that in the first post of that thread but wanted to see whether I was wrong to dismiss a view just because of where it is promoted.... Lesson learned!

The new variant has had a huge affect on wave 2. It probably would have been half of the number of deaths of wave 1 instead of nearly double without it. It's shown that there's no way of predicting what's next ... it's how you respond that matters.