Wor flights from Teesside to Dortmund for the Geordies

[weststandwally]

I can’t be bothered to fact check your figures but I will assume you are correct.

Transport links to Newcastle and Leeds are not ‘excellent’. Newcastle airport is on the wrong side of Newcastle for it to be truly an airport for all of the north east. Leeds isn’t particularly conveniently located even if you live in Leeds and it is very run down.

But my main point is that you can always construct a case to get rid of regional infrastructure in favour of doing it all more efficiently at a centralised hub.

If all northern flights went from Manchester with all airlines based there I bet the prices would come down sharply. Parking and facilities for passengers could also be brought up to Shippol standard. Yes the Geordies would have to get in the car and drive up to Edinburgh or go down the road to Manchester but so what, they would get soon used to it.

Manchester Airport is not easy to get to from the north east by car unless you have an early morning flight as the traffic on the M62 and M60 can be pretty unpredictable plus departing early morning or arriving late aren't possible by train as the timetable to the airport railway station doesn't accommodate those times.As for getting 'used to it' I'd rather pay extra to travel from Newcastle ,Leeds or Teeside for their convenience and I doubt the flight prices from Manchester would reduce as the airlines know they then have captive customers and would take advantage of it.

 

[ThatFragranceGuy]

Why give a Krakow example when you know fine well it's not a Teesside destination at the moment. Obviously the biggest draw back with Teesside (apart from the Mayor's budget - but hey this isn't a political point being made is it) is its limited routes. But that will only improve if people use it and back it (where they can with what's on offer at the moment). In the spirit of fairness, I chose a random weekend trip to Amsterdam in November as a comparison. 179 from Teesside and 201 from Newcastle. Parking I assume will be similar (drop off cheaper at Teesside and an easier request for friends and family to assist in that). Read a lot of negativity on here about the airport and to be honest it just feels like that age old tradition of kicking ourselves in the b***ks before others do it for us.

I'm giving krakow as an example because I live in Teesside, I'm going to krakow and therefore priced up those options. The fact it does not go to krakow is the point. Well, it does - but it's neither cheap, nor easy, but they rely on hub connections like these to say you can get everywhere via Teesside.

The spirit of fairness doesn't come into it as you're picking something just to compare prices. I'm not going in holiday to Amsterdam, or Aberdeen, or faro, and I'm not on the business of changing my holiday plans or paying over the odds to "back" a local airport. If I was going to Amsterdam and Teeside was cheaper then it's an absolute no brainer but if it's only going to improve if people use it; it has to go where people want to go.

Choosing another airport because it goes where you want to go on holiday isn't kicking it in the b***ks, it's just being savvy with your money.

 

[HolgateCorner]

Manchester Airport is not easy to get to from the north east by car unless you have an early morning flight as the traffic on the M62 and M60 can be pretty unpredictable plus departing early morning or arriving late aren't possible by train as the timetable to the airport railway station doesn't accommodate those times.As for getting 'used to it' I'd rather pay extra to travel from Newcastle ,Leeds or Teeside for their convenience and I doubt the flight prices from Manchester would reduce as the airlines know they then have captive customers and would take advantage of it.

I agree with you, I think we should keep the smaller regional airports to reduce the car travel. My argument was against those basically saying we should close Teesside. I think we should either have a regional airport grid or only develop big hub airports. Who says which airport is more important than another if they are all providing a local service? It’s like saying shut Middlesbrough railway station because Newcastle handles more trains.

 

[SilentProf]

You would think the way to get more customers using Teesside would be to serve mainly destinations without direct flights from Newcastle or Leeds. There must be a few decent options.

 

[ThatFragranceGuy]

I agree with you, I think we should keep the smaller regional airports to reduce the car travel. My argument was against those basically saying we should close Teesside. I think we should either have a regional airport grid or only develop big hub airports. Who says which airport is more important than another if they are all providing a local service? It’s like saying shut Middlesbrough railway station because Newcastle handles more trains.

No it's like saying close Middlesbrough train station if it's only got a daily train to Whitby but costs nearly the entire transport budget to run and most people in Teeside don't want to go to Whitby and not many will travel to Teesside to go to Whitby.

Middlesbrough train station is a busy train station with similar prices to other train stations and connects to the entire rail network so it's so far from being a good comparison it's unreal.

You would think the way to get more customers using Teesside would be to serve mainly destinations without direct flights from Newcastle or Leeds. There must be a few decent options.

It absolutely is - trouble is Ben will have to subsidise those flight routes also but that's obviously more money. But we can't see how much it's cost so far because of the murky goosepool Ltd structure setup to directly avoid such scrutiny, so we don't know if it's good value for money or not.

 

[JackG]

No it's like saying close Middlesbrough train station if it's only got a daily train to Whitby but costs nearly the entire transport budget to run and most people in Teeside don't want to go to Whitby and not many will travel to Teesside to go to Whitby.

Middlesbrough train station is a busy train station with similar prices to other train stations and connects to the entire rail network so it's so far from being a good comparison it's unreal.


It absolutely is - trouble is Ben will have to subsidise those flight routes also but that's obviously more money. But we can't see how much it's cost so far because of the murky goosepool Ltd structure setup to directly avoid such scrutiny, so we don't know if it's good value for money or not.

Except Teesside airport

 

[Blf]

Why are flights to and from Amsterdam so expensive?
My nephew and his family live in Amsterdam but fly to Leeds when they come home as its much cheaper.

 

[Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants]

Maybe because

Why are flights to and from Amsterdam so expensive?
My nephew and his family live in Amsterdam but fly to Leeds when they come home as its much cheaper.

possibly many of the cheaper seats have gone due to lads on rotation having flights booked well in advance.