Woodgate not sacked - rumours

coluka said:
I did not want Woodgate from the off. All that has unfolded was entirely predictable unfortunately. However, once in the job people were behind him, including me.

This false positive spin fooled some though, the spin is clearly MFC (Gibson) hype. All this positive American psychobabble talk does my head in it is pure guff to give the masses what they want to hear. The reality is what you see. I trust my eyes more than my ears..
...Britt is my number 9, he will score goals
...Britt will take the next penalty and I’ll guarantee he will score it
...Moukoudi is a Premier League player in waiting
...My team will press teams high up the pitch
...The spirit in the dressing room is second to none
...They are a great bunch of lads who give me everything
...I can’t fault their effort

I do not blame Woodgate for saying it, I believe he is giving his best, doing exactly the job he has been employed to do by his boss. Saying all the words his paymaster wants him to say. It is not his fault totally we are where we are. I believe Woodgate will be hurting, I believe he thought he would succeed. He is though just a puppet, like we all are for the companies we work or worked for. The buck rests absolutely with Gibson.

Who appointed rookie southgate and sold quality players and replaced them with poundland replacements?
Who appointed Strachan and went down the cheaper Scottish SPL route
Who threw a club legend under a bus even though he failed to support him financially
Who threw the best coach we have had since 2006 under the bus after failing to support him in January 2017
Who replaced him with yes man Agnew, the cheap option
Who appointed smuggie Monk, spent nigh on £50M (net spend around £6M) and sacked him after a win after 5 months
Who appointed the most defensively minded coach in football in Pulis after spending £50M on so called attacking players
Who told the fans we needed flair and pace in the team and proceeded to reduce the amount of flair and pace in the squad
Who sold the best CF at the club and kept Britt
Who only appoints yes men to do his bidding and spins more than a politician
Who tried to control the local press and the MFC news stories

Change is needed, it needs to start with Mr Gibsons approach and decision making and input. The last 14 years tells me he can’t do it himself. The only period of success was when he had help and input from Kenyon and put his trust in him and his manager Karanka which he appeared to withdraw in January 2017. Yes he saved the club with others and his vision was superb in his early days, but since 2006 his approach has changed markedly for the worse it seems to me. Woodgate will be just another scapegoat on his managerial list soon enough, but I doubt it will be right now
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Well said
 
Well prior to him joining the board we did absolutely nothing in 110 years. And as a supporter who has missed less than 25 home games since 1968, I think hes been the best we have had at the club.

The list of achievements is quite substantial, plus hes a local born Middlesbrough lad like myself that make me even more proud.

But thats just me.
 
Great post Coluka. However, I don't think signing players from the SPL was a cheap option. I'm sure Boyd, Thompson, MacDonald, Robson et al will all have been some of the biggest earners at the club. Most of those signings were naïve and ill advised from both Strachan and Gibson. If I remember, Strachan didn't even have a scouting process. In saying that I think we were all happy with them at the time.
 
good rant Coluka.

its an angle I suppose, but not a lot of fact in there, just conjecture and self opinion, nothing wrong with that. Now do the list with all the good things the chairman has brought us under his tutelage, just your own conjecture and opinion will do.
 
I think we all overestimated the level of Scottish football when we signed them.

btw I watched an old “only an excuse” episode and they did a sketch where a reporter was trying to interview to chris Boyd and they had him saying “sorry you’ll have to come here to me as I don’t do walking “, implying he was a lazy sod this was years before we signed him so the clues were there.
 
Wilf said:
good rant Coluka.

its an angle I suppose, but not a lot of fact in there, just conjecture and self opinion, nothing wrong with that. Now do the list with all the good things the chairman has brought us under his tutelage, just your own conjecture and opinion will do.
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All true wilf but how many of those good things have been in the last decade I think that’s the point as yes he has been great but his recent record is right to be questioned.
 
Wilf said:
good rant Coluka.

its an angle I suppose, but not a lot of fact in there, just conjecture and self opinion, nothing wrong with that. Now do the list with all the good things the chairman has brought us under his tutelage, just your own conjecture and opinion will do.
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No one is questioning Gibson's achievements as Chairman, we can all agree that without him there wouldn't be Middlesbrough Football Club, certainly not as we know it. There wouldn't have been the Carling Cup win, The UEFA Cup runs and final, signing world class players like Ravanelli and Juninho. But that doesn't mean he should be immune from criticism.
 
zorro_mfc said:
top drawer manager ? Really, yes I liked him and his initial approach but he wasn’t a top drawer manager.
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Depends what is meant by "top drawer" I suppose.

Could he have led us to a top 6 PL finish - with a bit more experience and the right sort of investment and backing I believe so!
 
Nobody is saying he is immune from criticism, thats what this board is for,opinions.

I can understand people are angry, but thats football, hes in a tough spot Woodgate but he knew what football management brings.
 
Aitor's win percentage for us definitely puts him in the category of 'top drawer'.

If he received the backing in Jan 2017 I am convinced we would have stayed up.

Then who knows.
 
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