sherlock
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Appraisal of Woodgate.
As a Person - Bad (based on Bowyer stuff and anecdotes of him about town)
People can’t change?
Appraisal of Woodgate.
As a Person - Bad (based on Bowyer stuff and anecdotes of him about town)
Really it was not difficult to understand why a player chose Spurs over ourselves even at that time. Spurs had finished 5th the previous season and as mentioned in Europe and we were lower half with a rookie manager. In any case I am not sure if you are using it as a stick to hit Woodgate with or it’s just a general musing you are going through. Whatever, he chose to move on and it didn’t turn out too bad for him and at the time I wasn’t in the least bit surprised at the move.We were UEFA Cup finalists 18 months earlier.
But more importantly, we were “his” team and he had signed a 4 year contract only a few months before.
Tbh met him out a few times in the 00's and he always seemed pretty decent? Think it was the early 20somethjng version of him that was easily led and a bit of a d*ckhead at times.People can’t change?
To be fair I think he is more the number 3 than the number 2 in the management hierarchy - below Danks (judging from the number of pitch line conversations has with both) - but that’s not to say he isn’t still having a good impact.Leave the club you supported as a boy, town you lived in whole life, owned a season ticket and whole family supported, to win a League Cup with a fellow mid-table side, and miss the chance to win the FA Cup with your own club? Well, I guess football means different things to different people.
I suppose what makes it worse is that Woody “seemed” to be a fan like the rest of us, the Spurs move was what made me think he’s just another mercenary professional footballer (which to be fair the vast majority of them are). I’d like him to clarify it if I’m honest, though I suspect he never will.
I never had faith in him to make it as a manager but I did say he could be a good number 2 somewhere. Didn’t think it would be here, so the fact he’s shown the humility to do that should be applauded.
Well I’m happy to agree to disagree, but I thought it was very difficult to understand at the time. Spurs weren’t an attractive proposition at the time at all, won nowt, consistent mid-table underachievers, had finished below us a few times, no success in Europe. He’d just signed a four year deal with the club he “loved” and yet couldn’t wait to get away during a good FA Cup run.Really it was not difficult to understand why a player chose Spurs over ourselves even at that time. Spurs had finished 5th the previous season and as mentioned in Europe and we were lower half with a rookie manager. In any case I am not sure if you are using it as a stick to hit Woodgate with or it’s just a general musing you are going through. Whatever, he chose to move on and it didn’t turn out too bad for him and at the time I wasn’t in the least bit surprised at the move.
Yes fair point.To be fair I think he is more the number 3 than the number 2 in the management hierarchy - below Danks (judging from the number of pitch line conversations has with both) - but that’s not to say he isn’t still having a good impact.
except of course for the two seasons prior to him joining them qualifying for Europe both times. Happy to disagree.Well I’m happy to agree to disagree, but I thought it was very difficult to understand at the time. Spurs weren’t an attractive proposition at the time at all, won nowt, consistent mid-table underachievers,
They qualified in 2006-2007, so it was once. And, what I actually said was they’d had no European success (recently), which they hadn’t (and had performed worse than us).except of course for the two seasons prior to him joining them qualifying for Europe both times. Happy to disagree.
I am not wrong. Look again. They qualified in 2005-6 as well in 5th. As I say the 2 seasons before he joined them. Spurs finished outside the top 6 in the season he joined them but his goal secured the league cup and a third successive qualification for the UEFA Cup. .They qualified in 2006-2007, so it was once. And, what I actually said was they’d had no European success (recently), which they hadn’t (and had performed worse than us).
He joined them in Jan 2008.
Easy to forget we qualified in 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 of course, getting to a final. In the 3 seasons prior, we’d actually qualified for Europe more than them. Not that that really matters if you do actually “love” a club. It’s not like silverware was out of our reach, the year he left was our best chance of winning the FA Cup for a few seasons.
They weren’t a bigger proposition than us in my opinion, so can we just respectfully disagree? Defend his decision if you like, but this is all subjective.
Ah yes I forgot they had two 5th places under Jol. So it was 2-2 in the previous 3 seasons. They had had years of mid-table mediocrity before that with no more cups than us, and they returned to that when Woodgate went there.I am not wrong. Look again. They qualified in 2005-6 as well in 5th. As I say the 2 seasons before he joined them. Spurs finished outside the top 6 in the season he joined them but his goal secured the league cup and a third successive qualification for the UEFA Cup. .