Wilder promising big overhaul - some development on Monday

Bruce said:
Alternately, Wilder is making room for 2-3 players in the 30 year old bracket. I strongly suspect he wants to do something equivalent to what McClaren did: buy 2-3 experienced pros who are on the wrong side of their peak but who still have a good couple of seasons in them and use them to get us into the Prem. Unlike Warnock who bought his old-boys as back-ups, I'm pretty sure Wilder wants a bunch of "oven-ready" senior pros to go straight into the first team.

I've seen nothing in Wilder that implies he's interested in developing youngsters for the sake of it but he has flagged that he wants more players like McGree: young players who have had some Championship experience.

I do wonder if he has been burnt by the loan deals we've done this season. We've had 5 pretty high-profile loans and they have all failed, some of them spectacularly.

Anyway, I forsee around 3 senior-pros aged 30+, 3 McGree types and a couple of loans (maybe one being a keeper), all of them with previous Championship experience or top-end league 1. Then a bunch of projects and back-ups that he's not really interested in.
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I don't think Wilder will have any interest in getting in any "projects" or pointless back ups like we had this season. I think he'll want 2 players for each position who can all contribute.
 
wilkos_perm said:
I don't think Wilder will have any interest in getting in any "projects" or pointless back ups like we had this season. I think he'll want 2 players for each position who can all contribute.
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That's arguably what we had this season.

I don't think we can afford a strong 22. A strong 11, 4 or 5 good subs we can possibly afford, that's with a couple of decent sales being made.

We'll get good money for Spence but I can't see him being on a big wage and the same will go for Tav and Fry. I can see McNair being on a bigger wage, he might be the more suitable one to go.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
That's arguably what we had this season.

I don't think we can afford a strong 22. A strong 11, 4 or 5 good subs we can possibly afford, that's with a couple of decent sales being made.

We'll get good money for Spence but I can't see him being on a big wage and the same will go for Tav and Fry. I can see McNair being on a bigger wage, he might be the more suitable one to go.
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I get that CtC, but I think Fry and Tav will bring in higher fees than McNair.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
That's arguably what we had this season.

I don't think we can afford a strong 22. A strong 11, 4 or 5 good subs we can possibly afford, that's with a couple of decent sales being made.

We'll get good money for Spence but I can't see him being on a big wage and the same will go for Tav and Fry. I can see McNair being on a bigger wage, he might be the more suitable one to go.
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i don't think we had that, he had a bench occupied by players he didn't trust that much, especially in midfield, or players he wouldn't pick unless he had to
The strikers were a different matter,
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
It's about wages as much as fees, together with potential. Tav and Fry are still developing, their fee next season or the one after could be a big one if their improvement continues.
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For us to hold Fry and Tavernier to get a big fee in the future they will each need to sign a longer contract on bigger money. I don't see either of them as having improved much this season in truth.
 
wilkos_perm said:
i don't think we had that, he had a bench occupied by players he didn't trust that much, especially in midfield, or players he wouldn't pick unless he had to
The strikers were a different matter,
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That's true, our worst signings were the ones he brought in up front.

I can't see us, or another club at this level as it stands, being able to afford 22 first team quality players. Those with the parachute payments will but they've got to hit the boards running or it will go downhill fast.
 
indeedido said:
For us to hold Fry and Tavernier to get a big fee in the future they will each need to sign a longer contract on bigger money. I don't see either of them as having improved much this season in truth.
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That is a point. Maybe it's time to cash in. I'd have no qualms selling them to be honest. They're replaceable.
 
The market is awash with players out of contract. Conceivably this could strengthen the hand of prospective clubs so salary expectations of these players may have to come down? If so, good news
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
That's true, our worst signings were the ones he brought in up front.

I can't see us, or another club at this level as it stands, being able to afford 22 first team quality players. Those with the parachute payments will but they've got to hit the boards running or it will go downhill fast.
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Perhaps, although you can help achieve it by having a few who can cover different positions
 
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