Why would you ever drive north of London..twice?

Cooper671 said:
AM - won’t let me copy your quote but Brexit was not a factor in 2017. I never said it was. It was after this and run up to 2019 I am talking about. I had no issue voting labour in 2017 as there was no incline they would try and reverse the vote
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That’s fair enough and makes sense but your previous post omitted to mention the fundamental reason your vote changed was Brexit policy and hinted that it was caused by posters on Social Media, it’s a shame that anyone’s position is hardened by negativity and not by conviction of belief in what it is.

There have been numerous occasions where myself and others have criticised posts, it’s never personal, by people of all kinds of political leanings, to suggest that it isn’t the case isn’t true and creates the idea that a kind of bullying is allowed to pervade the site or is it tacitly tolerated.
 
Cooper671 said:
Just to add... not you personally but you admit that person is a troll. Why is that said person not banned or even condemned by other posters from the left?
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Fortunately he is not on this Board but if he was and was displaying the kind of petty politics you appear to have ramped up on since coming over here I would also seek his censure of course.

As you keep telling us you used to be sensible poster but youve admitted to abandoning that for some kind of revenge trolling.
 
Yes I failed to mention Brexit in the original post but I have always stated previously that I voted down because of Brexit not party lines at this election. Cardiff that’s fair enough my point being on the old board before this came along I didn’t see anyone calling said poster a troll or the board moderators attempting to stop it.

AM I know you criticise posts that seem to come across as bullying etc. Problem is you have Borolad259 “supposed admin” suggesting he thought I was a former poster who is on trial for child sex offences. Then that post is liked by others. I said they should be ashamed of themselves it was disgusting to suggest it. That thread has now disappeared. So you have Rob on this thread adding to the myth that im some form of Tory activist and the other admin suggesting I could be a child sex offender on another. I do not think that is acceptable and I’m not surprised that thread is gone. Given your view that nothing is personal and bullying shouldn’t form part of this forum what is your take on that?
 
Cooper671 said:
Yes I failed to mention Brexit in the original post but I have always stated previously that I voted down because of Brexit not party lines at this election. Cardiff that’s fair enough my point being on the old board before this came along I didn’t see anyone calling said poster a troll or the board moderators attempting to stop it.

AM I know you criticise posts that seem to come across as bullying etc. Problem is you have Borolad259 “supposed admin” suggesting he thought I was a former poster who is on trial for child sex offences. Then that post is liked by others. I said they should be ashamed of themselves it was disgusting to suggest it. That thread has now disappeared. So you have Rob on this thread adding to the myth that im some form of Tory activist and the other admin suggesting I could be a child sex offender on another. I do not think that is acceptable and I’m not surprised that thread is gone. Given your view that nothing is personal and bullying shouldn’t form part of this forum what is your take on that?
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I was about to comment that it was out of line to make those comparisons and also the person accused was innocent until proven guilty but I was given a security error and the thread had been deleted.

I can only comment on the personal nature of my posts not the site in general so sorry if that wasn’t clear.

And this isn’t a criticism and should be taken at face value but the only people I have encountered who are as defensive of this Conservative government as you are are dyed in the wool life long supporters, so whilst I don’t agree with the view that you’re a shill or doubt your Labour voting past I can understand, given the zealous nature of your posts, why others might, most switched voters I know are less dogmatic and more circumspect in their views.
 
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Cooper671 said:
AM - won’t let me copy your quote but Brexit was not a factor in 2017. I never said it was. It was after this and run up to 2019 I am talking about. I had no issue voting labour in 2017 as there was no incline they would try and reverse the vote
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Haven't read the whole thread but I didn't vote for Corbyn in 2019 for the same reason, although I was a strong supporter of remain.

I didn't vote for Johnson instead though, I'm not sure anything could have got me to vote for him and his band of wallies.
 
Thanks AM. Borolad who posted it, fabio who then commented. Harryvegas accusing me of being “sensitive” when calling it a disgrace and NYBoro and zorro liking the posts should all be ashamed. When the board moderators are doing such things I find it hard to believe there isn’t an allowance of such behaviour towards others. Not you obviously you are fair and pull anyone up each time you see it.

I think it’s a shame when say jam69 queries how long I’ve been posting as only noticed me in the last year which shows that some only come to light when they have a different opinion. Although I never met him I was on this board when Grantus passed tragically so that’s how long I’ve been about.

I get your point about the defence of the government. I don’t think having a different opinion to most makes you a troll as some state. This board is literally jam packed everyday with any anti government story posters can find. If I’m a so called paid activist as Rob liked to state. Why does he not state he believes many labour posters are paid activists? Just rather single me out. Again which I find poor behaviour from the board owner and admin
 
I’m not ashamed the post was saying that many on here do think you could be that person then that would make me think oh really.

I agree with your comments and objections about being compared to that ( I won’t lower myself to name him) individual and I would never do that but you do come across as a Tory activist using this site to spread Tory propaganda ( not even debate just dogma) if that is not the case fair enough.

as I said I am a huge believer in free speech and I respect anyone right up hold any political view they choose and I’ll debate any issue but you can’t debate dogma.
 
The post which someone asked if he still posts on here and the admin on the board instead of saying “no” decided to bring my name into it. This is a username I’ve used across various platforms, it’s my surname it’s also my email address. A lot of people I know would know it’s me and my full name by this username so to associate it with that said poster... when my username was active the same time that said poster was posting...to me is a disgrace.

What makes you think I’m a Tory activist and your not a labour one? Or many other posters aren’t labour ones? I wouldn’t state i even spread Tory propaganda. I hardly start threads for a kick off. Ok this one is probs a little naughty but if you can point to another recently I’d take on board that criticism
 
Because I’ve been on this forum for over 10 years. Why wouldn’t I? Just because I have a different political view to others why would I leave?

Think it would be abit sad if posters thought it ok to chase off others.
 
Cooper671 said:
Because I’ve been on this forum for over 10 years. Why wouldn’t I? Just because I have a different political view to others why would I leave?

Think it would be abit sad if posters thought it ok to chase off others.
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As Lindsay Anderson, the film director said "it's important to understand the perspective of those you oppose." That is why I find Cooper's presence here valuable.
 
Cooper671 said:
Because I’ve been on this forum for over 10 years. Why wouldn’t I? Just because I have a different political view to others why would I leave?
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Because you don't seem capable of engaging in a discussion without coming over as contrary for the sake of it, repeating the same point over and over again, ignoring or not addressing points made back to you, and always having to have the last word.

It's nothing to do with me, but I asked because I can't see how you can possibly get any enjoyment out of it - but each to their own I suppose

Edit - unless of course you get your enjoyment from winding up other posters ?
 
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Malaguena said:
Because you don't seem capable of engaging in a discussion without coming over as contrary for the sake of it, repeating the same point over and over again, ignoring or not addressing points made back to you...
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The reasons I long-since stopped trying to engage and my non-contribution to this thread - apart from this of course, which is adressed directly to you Malaguena.
 
fmttmadmin said:
Very temporary ban until everyone has cooled down - something that is possible on this message board but not on the other.
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You’ve temporarily banned Cooper? Seriously?

Admin caused this issue with a post that compared an ex poster currently charged with serious offences to Cooper, it was unnecessary and could be interpreted as offensive regardless of the intended nature.

This could, and should have been defused long ago, but unfortunately admin have taken completely the wrong approach.
 
What an absolute disgrace banning Coops. After all the vile bile some lefty posters came up with during Brexit and the clear anti Tory Agenda appearing in nearly every thread I don't believe the abject cowardice of Admin.

You ought to be absolutely ashamed and embarrassed banning a member because you think he may be an activist of a party you disagree with.

Cooper never lost his cool so no need for him to calm down but if this is indicative of what the board has become then you're a sad bunch of sychophantic clones wallowing in self righteous angst - you lost the election, you lost on Brexit - get over it.
 
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