Who would be a referee

[Corco65]

After some ot the theatrics last night, Fulham player down on the ground for a while, up like a shot and sprinting and then crossing the ball when they get a break. Taylor feigning a push in the back when Wislon flew past him, Tav regularly beats the floor often when hardly touched and gets up with no treatment, McNair falls to the ground if anyone breathes on him, it happens now regularly in all games with players from all teams and yet fans still expect refs to get every judgement call right.

The ref has to make a quick decision with the home crowd berating and players screaming, to stop play. The game is hard enough to manage and get decisions right, but with players openly acting and making a mockery of sporting integrity, it makes it so much harder, but its still the ref who gets the blame despite the cheating going on all over the pitch.

 

[Capybara]

Multiple likes. How often do you get comments on here like 'referees are just not good enough at this level' by people who simply aren't prepared to do anything about it and/or have very little knowledge of the laws or how to apply them?

 

[Norfolkred1]

Slightly off topic. Few years ago I was watching a rugby match where my mates son was playing. I must admit the ref was poor and missed many knock ons, offsides etc much to the annoyance of my mate who voiced his encouragement to the ref. Out of the blue the ref blew his whistle march up to my my mate and threw the whistle at him and said carry on. Mates face was a picture, would love to see a ref throw at whistle at NW.

 

[sambaDTR]

Sporar is the worst. Sometimes he looks like he has broke his leg… then gets up!

 

[jonny_greenings_sock]

There's between £80,000-£200,000 good reasons why if you make it as a top flight ref...

I'd never do it like and it's incredibly hard. Even watching from the sideline whether it's Boro or non-league, it's hard to tell what's going on in the split second that it's happening, and they get so much abuse. Thankless, friendless job.

Still, you've got to wonder about the mentality of anyone who does it. It's like being a cop or a military policeman, what in your psyche drives you to want to be the fun spoiler, running around blowing your little whistle and being the authority figure who everyone hates?

I'm sure they were all bullied at school by the athletic kids. It always struck me as funny that a vanishingly small percentage of footballers are bald, but about 90% of refs are

 

[Paterson]

It's not so much the diving or feigning injury that gets me, but the constant disputing of decisions and criticism.

I saw a ref walk off at a game earlier in the season due to him deciding not to tolerate the abuse anymore.

Sod it, I'm off...

 

[Caretaker1]

After some ot the theatrics last night, Fulham player down on the ground for a while, up like a shot and sprinting and then crossing the ball when they get a break. Taylor feigning a push in the back when Wislon flew past him, Tav regularly beats the floor often when hardly touched and gets up with no treatment, McNair falls to the ground if anyone breathes on him, it happens now regularly in all games with players from all teams and yet fans still expect refs to get every judgement call right.

The ref has to make a quick decision with the home crowd berating and players screaming, to stop play. The game is hard enough to manage and get decisions right, but with players openly acting and making a mockery of sporting integrity, it makes it so much harder, but its still the ref who gets the blame despite the cheating going on all over the pitch.

When did it become a thing for players to wrestle with each other in the box before and during the delivery of a corner or set piece ?

 

[Norfolkred1]

Strange that ex players don't become referees where as many Rugby players do.

As for referee assistance what powers do they really have. Wednesday night was comical watching the referee before deciding which way the throw in went.

 

[afcb_acklam]

thank you for this thread, its so depressing hearing the vast majority of footy fans continually berating, mis-understanding & completely under appreciating refereeing.

 

[borgelite]

thank you for this thread, its so depressing hearing the vast majority of footy fans continually berating, mis-understanding & completely under appreciating refereeing.

All those who slag refs off , honestly would not have a clue if they had a go themselves.
Extremely hard job to ref a football match

 

[Abel Tasman]

All those who slag refs off , honestly would not have a clue if they had a go themselves.
Extremely hard job to ref a football match

Are you suggesting if you haven’t done it themselves you should never criticise others? Then I should stop being a film critic, a restaurant reviewer, a football fan then. I know what you mean but you will never stop passionate fans voicing at the referee in the heat of a match. Just won’t happen.

 

[joeydiaz]

Strange that ex players don't become referees where as many Rugby players do.

I think that’s down to the amount of respect rugby players have for the referee.

 

[Norfolkred1]

I think that’s down to the amount of respect rugby players have for the referee.

I also think it's down to the ref visiting both teams prior to the game and briefing the players on how the game will pan out and what action he would take in regards to foul play etc. Football should be the same, 'abuse me and you are off' surround me and yellows will be out etc.

 

[borgelite]

Are you suggesting if you haven’t done it themselves you should never criticise others? Then I should stop being a film critic, a restaurant reviewer, a football fan then. I know what you mean but you will never stop passionate fans voicing at the referee in the heat of a match. Just won’t happen.

The heat of the moment I get, it's when people go on and on.
As with lots of people and things in life it's very easy to tell others how something should be done.
But in reality they would have a clue themselves. Opinions and criticism are a part of life and everyone at some point has to take it but people who get abused for geniune mistakes I really don't like.

 

[Steer]

If I was a ref, most games would end up with about 7 players on the pitch at the end. The abuse they get off the players, is awful, but these are the same players who blatantly cheat and roll around on the floor, dive for penalties, appeal for absolutely everything, and try to get opposition booked and sent off etc. It must be an absolutely horrible job, and when you have finished, you get expert pundits sat in their comfy swivel chairs, in their nice warm studio replaying and freeze-framing incidents from multiple angles and criticising the ref who missed the incident in real time, or made what turned out to be a wrong decision.
Thankless task.

 

[changingman]

I also think it's down to the ref visiting both teams prior to the game and briefing the players on how the game will pan out and what action he would take in regards to foul play etc. Football should be the same, 'abuse me and you are off' surround me and yellows will be out etc.

This is a big factor I think.

Also, despite having a fairly codified rulebook there is a lot of interpretation allowed for a football referee. Appreciate you can't cover every single eventuality in the rule book but I think it might be worth extrapolating on a number of offences to try to create a consistent approach.

 

[newusername]

Sod it, I'm off...

That was a good read .

 

[Norman_Conquest]

My youngest son aged 15 at the time trained to be a referee and gave it up after two seasons. The abuse he got from parents watching was ridiculous and on two separate occasions, a parent went on the pitch to him and threatened him. The first time it happened I was present and was able to intervene, the second time it happened, he had walked down to the local school on his own and a parent was waiting for him outside the gates at the end of the game.

Ross Joyce (referee association) was brilliant about it and both clubs got heavily fined but the last time had really frightened him and he wouldn't referee games anymore.

We all need to show (players and fans) referee's the respect they deserve at all levels. Players feigning injury only retracts from the game.



Saying that he did referee a school game for me and awarded a penalty in the last seconds to the opposition, which took the game into extra time. We went on to lose the game. Teatime was awkward in our house that night.

Edit: He's just reminded me that I played the Genesis song 'Your no son of mine.'

 

[Pak_Doo_Ik]

My youngest son aged 15 at the time trained to be a referee and gave it up after two seasons. The abuse he got from parents watching was ridiculous and on two separate occasions, a parent went on the pitch to him and threatened him. The first time it happened I was present and was able to intervene, the second time it happened, he had walked down to the local school on his own and a parent was waiting for him outside the gates at the end of the game.

Ross Joyce (referee association) was brilliant about it and both clubs got heavily fined but the last time had really frightened him and he wouldn't referee games anymore.

We all need to show (players and fans) referee's the respect they deserve at all levels. Players feigning injury only retracts from the game.



Saying that he did referee a school game for me and awarded a penalty in the last seconds to the opposition, which took the game into extra time. We went on to lose the game. Teatime was awkward in our house that night.

This is a big issue, we really struggle for refs at my sons age (under 13) and its because of the abuse they receive from mainly parents. I run the line and even I have to listen to abuse because I've flagged the wrong way for a throw in and this is in division 3 of a kids league.

I've tackled a couple of parents when they have shouted something and in the main they are apologetic and don't realise they are doing it, but the trouble is the are setting the example that their young Ronaldo protégé then follows.

 

[jonny_greenings_sock]

My youngest son aged 15 at the time trained to be a referee and gave it up after two seasons. The abuse he got from parents watching was ridiculous and on two separate occasions, a parent went on the pitch to him and threatened him. The first time it happened I was present and was able to intervene, the second time it happened, he had walked down to the local school on his own and a parent was waiting for him outside the gates at the end of the game.

Ross Joyce (referee association) was brilliant about it and both clubs got heavily fined but the last time had really frightened him and he wouldn't referee games anymore.

We all need to show (players and fans) referee's the respect they deserve at all levels. Players feigning injury only retracts from the game.



Saying that he did referee a school game for me and awarded a penalty in the last seconds to the opposition, which took the game into extra time. We went on to lose the game. Teatime was awkward in our house that night.

Really sorry to hear that mate. I’m chatting **** about refs for banter purposes but that’s awful, and must be awful as a parent.

The problem is top down for sure.

Kids copy what they see their favourite players do.

I remember Keane, Beckham and Stam with their shaved heads surrounding refs at Old Trafford, and still most of MOTD is either whinging about refs or whinging about VAR.

They either go zero tolerance for a few seasons and end up with games being 7vs7 for any disrespect to a referee, or discourage a generation from wanting to pick up a whistle because they get so much abuse from Ronaldo, and every pundit, and every manager, down.