Who the f**** needs Europe. We have all we need here.

What a pointless article. Brexit doesn't mean we stop importing food. We import the majority because it is cheaper to grow them in foreign climates, especially in colder parts of the year. We could grow our own if we wanted to but we grow things that is suitable for our climate (and export a lot of it). We get most of our food imports from Europe because we are in the EU but we could easily get a lot of it from other countries. We don't currently because the EU is cheaper and because there are tariffs on non-EU countries which we will no longer have to stick with. After Brexit it may be cheaper to import oranges from South Africa instead of Spain etc.

It's an interesting topic and some in-depth analysis would be good to read but this article is not that. It's just clickbait.
 
boromike85 said:
We import the majority because it is cheaper to grow them in foreign climates, especially in colder parts of the year. We could grow our own if we wanted to but we grow things that is suitable for our climate (and export a lot of it).

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How could we grow all our own food? It would be physically impossible both in terms of land area needed and climate limitations I think.
 
boromike85 said:
What a pointless article. Brexit doesn't mean we stop importing food. We import the majority because it is cheaper to grow them in foreign climates, especially in colder parts of the year. We could grow our own if we wanted to but we grow things that is suitable for our climate (and export a lot of it). We get most of our food imports from Europe because we are in the EU but we could easily get a lot of it from other countries. We don't currently because the EU is cheaper and because there are tariffs on non-EU countries which we will no longer have to stick with. After Brexit it may be cheaper to import oranges from South Africa instead of Spain etc.

It's an interesting topic and some in-depth analysis would be good to read but this article is not that. It's just clickbait.
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If you don't think food will be more expensive come January you've got rocks in your head.
 
LaPennaBianca said:
If you don't think food will be more expensive come January you've got rocks in your head.
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It's going to be a cold, hard shock to the brexiteers who still can't see that it's their lives that will be worse. Their freedom of movement curtailed, their monthly expenditure going up, their job losses as well as the rest of the country. Anyone still believing Brexit is going to be fine has a real, scary, shock coming to them
 
SmallTown said:
It's going to be a cold, hard shock to the brexiteers who still can't see that it's their lives that will be worse. Their freedom of movement curtailed, their monthly expenditure going up, their job losses as well as the rest of the country. Anyone still believing Brexit is going to be fine has a real, scary, shock coming to them
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Yeah, but they're getting their country back! Apparently...
 
boromike85 said:
What a pointless article. Brexit doesn't mean we stop importing food. We import the majority because it is cheaper to grow them in foreign climates, especially in colder parts of the year. We could grow our own if we wanted to but we grow things that is suitable for our climate (and export a lot of it). We get most of our food imports from Europe because we are in the EU but we could easily get a lot of it from other countries. We don't currently because the EU is cheaper and because there are tariffs on non-EU countries which we will no longer have to stick with. After Brexit it may be cheaper to import oranges from South Africa instead of Spain etc.

It's an interesting topic and some in-depth analysis would be good to read but this article is not that. It's just clickbait.
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We are less than 4 months from crashing out the EU, but we *might* get cheaper oranges elsewhere.

Pretty much sums up the farce that is brexit.
 
Chris_Boro said:
We are less than 4 months from crashing out the EU, but we *might* get cheaper oranges elsewhere.

Pretty much sums up the farce that is brexit.
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So we are going to have tarrif free trade with a none EU country? Wow. When did this happen? South Africa I guess...
 
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Just look at your weekly shop if you follow a balanced diet and don't exist on packaged stuff. The variety of fresh fruit and veg you see in the supermarkets can't be all be grown here so it might not only be more expensive but also reduced in choice.
It's all just 'Project Fear' as we've been told numerous times. Given the economy has already been hit hard by the pandemic, a punitive Brexit could make things even worse than predicted.
 
It may not be 100% correlated but my shopping bills seem much higher since Brexit was announced. I doubt it is direct or wholly due to Brexit but I think that things that went up when the pound was low have just stayed at the higher prices as we we stomached it and businesses can get away with it.

I said at the time of the vote, there will be hundreds and hundreds of unintended consequences of Brexit to a few rabid Brexiteer colleagues of mine, that will impact our everyday lives and that we the paying public / tax payers will end up out of pocket for. None of them would have it.

I doff my cap to those behind the social media and advertising campaigns to influence Joe public into believing that this was a good idea for the everyday working class folk of Britain. A job Goebbels would have been proud of.

Luckily for the Tories they'll be able to blame the coming hard times on Covid and anything else on 'Europe' being mean and punishing us for not wanting them robbing us of our sovereignty or some other such nonsense.
 
Covid-19 has been a godsend for this Tory Government whilst the Brexit deal (non) negotiations have been taking place. Just imagine being able to blame the economic crisis of the next decade and beyond on a virus rather than anything to do with leaving the EU with no deal?
 
Trug said:
I am sure I heard that said sometime ago. This article says different.
www.indy100.com/article/britain-food-imports-brexit-farmers-union-study-9674866
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Just imagine, falling for the conjob for helping multimillionaires protect the power and wealth of Billionaires? Because of your own xenophobia. Millions of braindead did, mind you, voting tory and being working class is as braindead, because a few Billionaires tell you to in the garbage you read or watch. Its narcissistic to restrict the movements for your children and grandchildren. And what happened to Brexshit years later? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
ticker_tape said:
We import nearly all the wheat to make flour, bread is our staff of life.
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Its relatively easy to do the Maths. The government have a website with all the proposed tarrifs for each commodity. It goes from the likes of fags at around 50% to booze which will be zero.
You then need to add in currency deflation.

Those that have done the analysis (bloomin experts tho) say the extra cost to the supermarket industry is the equivalent of around 3% on the cost price of all their goods.
None of them can afford to take a 3% hit - something has to give and it is either price rises or job losses.
 
Personally I hope Brexit and Covid are the kick up the backside we need to become more self sufficient, we should be building, manufacturing and growing more in this country. We should be exporting and not importing. Instead we’ve become the service sector arm of the EU economy and that’s why we will be hit harder economically by Covid. We need a more diversified economy and hopefully our new competitiveness will allow us to do that rather than leaving the manufacturing to Germany and the farming to France because that’s what the EU decided and how it’s always been.
 
UKLL1981 said:
Personally I hope Brexit and Covid are the kick up the backside we need to become more self sufficient, we should be building, manufacturing and growing more in this country. We should be exporting and not importing. Instead we’ve become the service sector arm of the EU economy and that’s why we will be hit harder economically by Covid. We need a more diversified economy and hopefully our new competitiveness will allow us to do that rather than leaving the manufacturing to Germany and the farming to France because that’s how the EU has decided it will be.
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Or, leave people to what they are good at? We'll lose out on quite a lot of foodstuffs if we try and go self sufficient. We just don't have the varied climate.

Still, I guess it's a different way brexit will make us poor, if you want us to never have oranges and bananas
 
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