Where would Celtic finish in the Premier League?

Current squad probably upper middle championship. Long term lower middle premiership. No way will they be top six, no automatic champions league place and I doubt the fan base would cope well with regularly getting battered by the likes of Bournemouth.
 
Steer said:
It's hard to compare because a lot of their league opponents are so poor. But looking at their recent record in Europe, its hardly inspiring. I think bottom half at best, but possibly in a relegation fight.
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Rangers, who aren't as good as Celtic, made the final of the Europa League a couple of years back, losing on penalties.
 
motownjunk said:
Current squad probably upper middle championship. Long term lower middle premiership. No way will they be top six, no automatic champions league place and I doubt the fan base would cope well with regularly getting battered by the likes of Bournemouth.
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Their fans base would be bigger than just about all of the clubs in England, and they'd stick with them.

They'd need a bigger stadium than they have now, that's for sure.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
Their fans base would be bigger than just about all of the clubs in England, and they'd stick with them.

They'd need a bigger stadium than they have now, that's for sure.
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I don't think their fan base would stick around in as many numbers. It would shrink pretty quickly getting hammered most weeks, they would have a poorer squad than most teams and no european football.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
Rangers, who aren't as good as Celtic, made the final of the Europa League a couple of years back, losing on penalties.
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Cup competitions aren't a good measure of anything really, not as a one-off. Coventry were about 3 inches away from the FA Cup final this year but they are nowhere near one of the best teams in the country. Had the league cup been a 1 leg semi instead of 2 then we'd have been in the other cup final.
 
motownjunk said:
I don't think their fan base would stick around in as many numbers. It would shrink pretty quickly getting hammered most weeks, they would have a poorer squad than most teams and no european football.
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Oh they would, without a doubt. If they were in the Championship they'd be filling their ground every week, and taking thousands away, regardless of ticket availability.
 
Nano said:
Cup competitions aren't a good measure of anything really, not as a one-off. Coventry were about 3 inches away from the FA Cup final this year but they are nowhere near one of the best teams in the country. Had the league cup been a 1 leg semi instead of 2 then we'd have been in the other cup final.
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I was responding to the poor European record posting. I agree with you.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
Oh they would, without a doubt. If they were in the Championship they'd be filling their ground every week, and taking thousands away, regardless of ticket availability.
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In the championship they would be pretty competitive and yes they would do well support wise initially but a few years in the championship that they would soon get sick of that. They wouldn't find it easy to get out of the championship as they would struggle to compete against teams with premiership parachute payments.
 
Down near the bottom, probably relegated with the current squad. Don't think they would ever make it beyond relegation strugglers and think the fans would get pretty sick, pretty soon, when they're getting hammered every other week.

Sure, they've got a fan base, but good luck trying to get enough stars to want to live in Scotland and play there every other week.

They would need an absolutely massive cash injection, probably near £500m to be able to have a chance to get top half, but who is going to do that? Even Newcastle tried that and found it tough, they're rich and in a better location than Celtic and even they struggled to get into Europe. Man Utd finished below them and West ham or Brighton would walk the Scottish league.

People always get the wrong idea because they compete with prem teams once in a blue moon in Europe, but for Celtic players and fans that's probably the main aim of the season, to win that game, where as English clubs would be looking at that as just a normal game, and the big teams would possibly be resting players.
 
In the last 30 years Celtic have had good results in Europe against English clubs. It’s different competing in the English league though. I reckon they would be 12th with their current side.
 
motownjunk said:
In the championship they would be pretty competitive and yes they would do well support wise initially but a few years in the championship that they would soon get sick of that. They wouldn't find it easy to get out of the championship as they would struggle to compete against teams with premiership parachute payments.
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Of course they'd get up easy enough, the clubs with big followings, aside from the basket case up the road, usually do.
 
Billy69_uk said:
15th to 20th at best.

I am not sure the argument of premier league money would lead to their success, after all it hasn't led to much success for the many teams promoted who get relegated after a couple of seasons.

a big fan base does not equal a "big" or successful team. just look up the road towards the SOL
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I think Sunderland's heavily discounted and incentivised ticket schemes probably put them at a disadvantage.
They don't bring in a great deal more money than clubs with notably smaller attendances.

They don't really gain that much of an advantage from their fanbase.
 
Both Rangers and Celtic are huge clubs with massive fanbases.

They are however both absolutely terrible squads and teams.
At present they would finish bottom two in the PL. I don't think eiother would get close to the play offs in the Championship.
I really like Rangers, but this is as bad a Rangers team as I've seen and similarly celtic.

If they were dropped into the PL with the uplift in revenues I still think they would go down in the first season.
But they would attract investment and would eventually get promoted again and establish themselves in the PL.
They are so far behind the big 6 at the minute, but could compete with Villa, Newcastle, West Ham within five years.

It is disrespectful to say they couldn't, they are big clubs suppressed by their national league, living on past glories.

It would be a disgrace if they were welcomed into a top English league, or a top British one was created to accommodate them.
But if they agreed to join close to the pyramid base and not take a UEFA place based on Scottish cup competitions, then they should be allowed to. If it is good enough for Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham then why not them,
or for that matter Linfield?
 
If they want to join they should be allowed to.

Scottish league would soon become as irrelevant as the Welsh or Irish though. That’s why it won’t happen.
 
Relegated by February wih their current squad. As rangers would be, if not sooner. Then they'd have to rely on parachute payments and gate receipts as others do
 
They'd be relegated instantly.
They don't have to spend much on their squad as their buying power is several times more than anyone else. Celtic, Aberdeen and Kilmarnock are probably the strongest financially in the SPL.
 
They would struggle as rules have been brought in to make sure clubs cant break in to the top 6 (sorry the rules were brought in to ensure clubs don’t spend more than they can afford to ensure they don’t go in to administration).
 
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