What was that about Saudi Arabia the progressive society

Jedi boro

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With football and boxing defending the regime that it has changed and it is a progressive society.

It would appear not....

Disney is refusing Saudi Arabia’s request to cut a 12 second clip from ‘Doctor Strange in the #MultiverseOfMadness’ where a lesbian character, America Chavez, says she has two moms, @Guardian reports.
 
I’m highlighting this as it’s not a kiss or a love scene etc it’s the mere reference of two moms they want removing. I find that chilling to erase that this even exists is quite something.

Be interesting if a Newcastle player ever did come out as gay then wouldn’t it.
 
im not defending SA in anyway - but progressive change does not come at the flick of a switch across all spheres - it is evolution not revolution, regardless of the country & culture involved.

Exactly , time will tell if they come more progressive but you can’t just go from 0 to 100%.

It’s needs to naturally evolve with the populace . If you force something you will get a strong backlash
 
It’s a reference in a film now wether Saudi like it or not same sex couples DO EXIST in the world.

Removing that is beyond social control.
 
It’s a reference in a film now wether Saudi like it or not same sex couples DO EXIST in the world.

Removing that is beyond social control.
That in argument is valid point, but you can’t dismiss that Saudi are progressive on this point alone
 
Exactly , time will tell if they come more progressive but you can’t just go from 0 to 100%.

It’s needs to naturally evolve with the populace . If you force something you will get a strong backlash
That’s rubbish

O-100 it’s a reference in a Disney movie.

It’s not last tango in Paris

It’s ridiculous
 
It’s a reference in a film now wether Saudi like it or not same sex couples DO EXIST in the world.

Removing that is beyond social control.
i have a same sex couple (women) with a 2 year old baby living over the road from me, i had a same sex couple (women) living next door to me for 20 years and i have a same sex couple (male) living 4 houses up from me - i know and live amongst 'same sex couples'.

as for disney being the moral equality compass of the world - im afraid to say they have more skeletons in their cupboard than an Arlington, Virginia graveyard.
 
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i have a same sex couple (women) with a 2 year old baby living over the road from me, i had a same sex couple (women) living next door to me for 20 years and i have a same sex couple (male) living 4 houses up from me - i know and live amongst 'same sex couples'.

as for disney being the moral equality compass of the world - im afraid to say they have more skeletons in their cupboard than an Arlington, Virginia graveyard.
That’s completely irrelevant I know all about Disney’s shady past, the fact is a film that is shown world wide to adults ( not a small kids film it’s dr strange 2) and they asked for it to censored as that is what this is.

To censor the phrase two moms.

Not an explicit kiss or a an improper act but words.

That’s chilling.

This is the regime that owns Newcastle btw it’s not a consortium it’s he Saudi crown prince himself.

Fit and proper ??? Really
 
I would change the term: progressive to liberal

As some of the so called progressive causes / countries are confrontational & dictatorial, not progressive in a very broad sense, though want to be more liberal..
 
I would change the term: progressive to liberal

As some of the so called progressive causes / countries are confrontational & dictatorial, not progressive in a very broad sense, though want to be more liberal..
I chose the term “progressive” on purpose as it’s the buzz phrase they themselves use to define themselves.

 
I chose the term “progressive” on purpose as it’s the buzz phrase they themselves use to define themselves.

I just think the term is misplaced in their argument.. I'm sure the Saudis consider their - religious based - system as progressive... Liberal they could not claim it to be..
 
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